# Ignition Early Access

**URL:** https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/c/ignition-8-early-access/10.md?page=29

[Latest](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/latest.md) · [Categories](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/categories.md) · [Tags](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/tags.md)

**Page:** 30

---

## [New DB Table Historian Info](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-db-table-historian-info/39320)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@nickboratyn](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nickboratyn)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [October 2, 2020, 5:45pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-db-table-historian-info/39320 "2020-10-02T17:45:43Z")

</div>

I see that there is a new tag historian tag provider called DB Table Historian which is new in ignition 8.1. I think this could be useful in querying data from other system to get data. My question is how do you set it u…

---

## [Nightly 8.0 Changelogs - 2020](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/nightly-8-0-changelogs-2020/31153)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@Paul.Scott](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Paul.Scott)\
**Replies:** 132\
**Last updated:** [October 2, 2020, 5:04pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/nightly-8-0-changelogs-2020/31153 "2020-10-02T17:04:58Z")

</div>

This post contains changelog entries for nightly builds available in 2020. Previous change logs can be found here: Nightly Changelogs - 2019

---

## [Scrollbar in popup will not go away](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/scrollbar-in-popup-will-not-go-away/26616)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@md.szyman](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/md.szyman)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [October 2, 2020, 10:27am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/scrollbar-in-popup-will-not-go-away/26616 "2020-10-02T10:27:08Z")

</div>

Above is a screenshot of what I’m talking about. I have this container that I want as a popup which has nothing but an XY Chart inside of it. No matter what, I cannot get rid of the useless scrollbar on the right. I’v…

---

## [Gateway starting time](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/gateway-starting-time/39297)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@federico.furlani](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/federico.furlani)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [October 2, 2020, 7:21am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/gateway-starting-time/39297 "2020-10-02T07:21:32Z")

</div>

Hi there, I moved from Ignition 8.0.16 to 8.1. Tried 8.1.0 RC1, RC2 and 8.1.1 nightly. With these versions, gateway takes about 15/20 minutes in starting procedure. Previously, with 8.0.16, this time was less than 2 mi…

---

## [Gateway tag change script - previous value not available](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/gateway-tag-change-script-previous-value-not-available/27055)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@CraigP](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/CraigP)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [October 1, 2020, 9:36pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/gateway-tag-change-script-previous-value-not-available/27055 "2020-10-01T21:36:42Z")

</div>

In tag event scripts, previousValue is available in the valueChanged event function but it doesn’t appear to be available in a gateway event tag change script. Is there a way to get the previous value from there? Versio…

---

## [Vision Client Launcher - Not connecting - First Install](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/vision-client-launcher-not-connecting-first-install/39187)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@rfedyk](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/rfedyk)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 30, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/vision-client-launcher-not-connecting-first-install/39187 "2020-09-30T18:47:16Z")

</div>

This is probably another simple fix with something I am missing. I have used the steps detailed for creating a zip file and extracting on my client PC. When I try to launch the Client, it is stuck in a connecting loop. …

---

## [Moving table rows in perspective](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/moving-table-rows-in-perspective/39078)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@bwagner](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/bwagner)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 30, 2020, 1:31pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/moving-table-rows-in-perspective/39078 "2020-09-30T13:31:51Z")

</div>

I have a table that each cell is bound to a tag. In the designer I can move the rows of data around by dragging in the designer the objects of data around under the data property. I’m trying to figure out how to do this …

---

## [\[FEATURE-530\] Power chart feature request - handle multiple tags with same base name](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/feature-530-power-chart-feature-request-handle-multiple-tags-with-same-base-name/38797)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@BenKearney](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/BenKearney)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 29, 2020, 2:56am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/feature-530-power-chart-feature-request-handle-multiple-tags-with-same-base-name/38797 "2020-09-29T02:56:44Z")

</div>

One of the challenges I have with charting is that I tend to have a few dozen identical devices on my sites and so I would usually generate multiple instances of each using UDTs, leaving me with a structure that looks li…

---

## [Limitation on using embedded view in map layers.ui.view](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/limitation-on-using-embedded-view-in-map-layers-ui-view/39104)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@nader.chinichian](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nader.chinichian)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [September 28, 2020, 5:15am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/limitation-on-using-embedded-view-in-map-layers-ui-view/39104 "2020-09-28T05:15:04Z")

</div>

Hi When I use any embedded view with width and height other than 64x64 px for perspective map component (layers.ui.view), I see the result render blurry and when change the zoom it coordinate change and has some offset …

---

## [\[BUG-506\] 8.1.0 RC1 Output parameters in flex repeaters](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-506-8-1-0-rc1-output-parameters-in-flex-repeaters/39073)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@jpark](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jpark)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [September 25, 2020, 10:18pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-506-8-1-0-rc1-output-parameters-in-flex-repeaters/39073 "2020-09-25T22:18:19Z")

</div>

It looks like Output parameters don’t work when a view is used in a flex repeater. When the same view is used in an embededView, it works. This also works as expected in 8.0.15

---

## [Upgrade to V8.1.0 from V 7.9.5 - All SQL binding update queries disabled after upgrade](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/upgrade-to-v8-1-0-from-v-7-9-5-all-sql-binding-update-queries-disabled-after-upgrade/39036)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@Gratliff](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Gratliff)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 25, 2020, 3:37pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/upgrade-to-v8-1-0-from-v-7-9-5-all-sql-binding-update-queries-disabled-after-upgrade/39036 "2020-09-25T15:37:30Z")

</div>

I have a call in to support on this but wanted to see if anyone else has seen this. After upgrading to 8.0.1 (from 7.9.5) in one of our projects, all of the Update query on a SQL bindings were disabled. I’m having to ma…

---

## [8.1: Find Tool hides the find dialog after finishing find](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/8-1-find-tool-hides-the-find-dialog-after-finishing-find/39028)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@JordanCClark](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/JordanCClark)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [September 24, 2020, 6:06pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/8-1-find-tool-hides-the-find-dialog-after-finishing-find/39028 "2020-09-24T18:06:26Z")

</div>

Wordy title, I know. in 8.1 RC, if I run the find tool, The ‘executing task / waiting for gateway’ notification pops up. Unfortunately, the find dialog doesn’t stay on top and I have to get to it through the task bar. …

---

## [Menu Tree Icon with Text underneath](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/menu-tree-icon-with-text-underneath/39038)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@code\_skin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/code_skin)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [September 24, 2020, 6:02pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/menu-tree-icon-with-text-underneath/39038 "2020-09-24T18:02:24Z")

</div>

Version: 8.1.0-rc1 (b2020091420) Is it possible to achieve this using the Menu Tree component? if so, how?

---

## [\[BUG\] Concurrent Users](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-concurrent-users/39024)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@code\_skin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/code_skin)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [September 24, 2020, 2:44pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-concurrent-users/39024 "2020-09-24T14:44:58Z")

</div>

Version: 8.1.0-rc1 (b2020091420) I’m running 8.1.0 locally and when I open 2 designers with different projects both designers are showing 2 concurrent users.

---

## [Nightly 8.1 - Power Chart](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/nightly-8-1-power-chart/38885)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@lasse](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/lasse)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [September 23, 2020, 6:12pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/nightly-8-1-power-chart/38885 "2020-09-23T18:12:36Z")

</div>

Hi, i am trying to use the Power Chart, but I can’t figure out what to link/post in the “TagBrowserStartPath” ? Can anyone give me an example on how to get the chart to work? Thanks in advance :slight\_smile:

---

## [Datetime memory tag issues](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/datetime-memory-tag-issues/34811)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@Esn](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Esn)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [September 23, 2020, 11:45am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/datetime-memory-tag-issues/34811 "2020-09-23T11:45:08Z")

</div>

Hi, When creating a memory tag with datetime datatype through script it seems that I can’t set the value? Running the code below makes the tag, but the value is None. Is it possible to set the value to a certain date? …

---

## [\[Bug-580\]Perspective - Navigation event](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-580-perspective-navigation-event/38949)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@luc.martin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/luc.martin)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 23, 2020, 11:27am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-580-perspective-navigation-event/38949 "2020-09-23T11:27:21Z")

</div>

I try to open active page in a new tab. I use the action Navigation and want to get the page.props.path as set page but it return nothing…

---

## [Perspective mobile - go back](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-mobile-go-back/38953)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@luc.martin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/luc.martin)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [September 22, 2020, 7:52pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-mobile-go-back/38953 "2020-09-22T19:52:20Z")

</div>

It is hard to do a go back without opening the exit application popup.

---

## [8.1 RC download size?](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/8-1-rc-download-size/38941)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@jpark](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jpark)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [September 22, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/8-1-rc-download-size/38941 "2020-09-22T18:13:19Z")

</div>

Noticed the downloads are now 1.5 gb instead of the usual sub 1gb.

---

## [system.util.sendMessage() perspective scripting](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/system-util-sendmessage-perspective-scripting/38799)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@matthew.ayre](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/matthew.ayre)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [September 21, 2020, 3:34pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/system-util-sendmessage-perspective-scripting/38799 "2020-09-21T15:34:52Z")

</div>

I have a script that calls system.util.sendMessage(). When scope is not provided (default: GCS) I get a return value of:\[type=Gateway,project=myProject,messageHandler=test,filterParams={userRoles=, userZones=},isRequest=…

---

## [Perspective - Top dock view issue](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-top-dock-view-issue/38869)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@luc.martin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/luc.martin)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [September 20, 2020, 12:01pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-top-dock-view-issue/38869 "2020-09-20T12:01:58Z")

</div>

I try to configure an onDemand push TOP dock view. The problem is that the zone of the dock view always stay on top. When I hide my view the zone still visible and my top dock don’t push my left dock view when I put my…

---

## [How to automatically size perspective window to device application is being accessed](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/how-to-automatically-size-perspective-window-to-device-application-is-being-accessed/23493)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@ndani](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/ndani)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [September 19, 2020, 2:17pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/how-to-automatically-size-perspective-window-to-device-application-is-being-accessed/23493 "2020-09-19T14:17:55Z")

</div>

Hello, is there a way to automatically size perspective window/page to device application is being accessed from. Need to be able to move containers based on pixels available to make better use of system depending on dev…

---

## [Numeric field classes issue on iOS mobile device](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/numeric-field-classes-issue-on-ios-mobile-device/38836)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@luc.martin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/luc.martin)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 18, 2020, 4:31pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/numeric-field-classes-issue-on-ios-mobile-device/38836 "2020-09-18T16:31:52Z")

</div>

I have an issue on mobile iOS (iPhone 8), I try to pass a color classes on a disabled numeric field but my class is bypassed. I have tried on Safari, Perspective mobile app, Firefox and Chrome. I want to diplayed my nu…

---

## [\[BUG-10417\] Trial mode ended but countdown frozen and can't reset](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-10417-trial-mode-ended-but-countdown-frozen-and-cant-reset/22984)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@ASF](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/ASF)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [September 18, 2020, 7:35am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-10417-trial-mode-ended-but-countdown-frozen-and-cant-reset/22984 "2020-09-18T07:35:00Z")

</div>

I’m currently developing in trial mode, and my two hours were up, so everything has gone “bad quality - trial expired”. I opened the gateway in the browser to reset it, but the trial mode countdown is stuck at 1:55:18 an…

---

## [Error in gateway log](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/error-in-gateway-log/26764)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@craigb](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/craigb)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [August 19, 2020, 4:45pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/error-in-gateway-log/26764 "2020-08-19T16:45:21Z")

</div>

Using Perspective I keep seeing this error over and over again in the gateway logs. Received updates for missing view instance Blast/Blast@C

---

## [\[IGN-506\] Input/Output not responding on Flex Repeater](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ign-506-input-output-not-responding-on-flex-repeater/38718)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@mitchell-ACS](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/mitchell-ACS)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 17, 2020, 1:53am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ign-506-input-output-not-responding-on-flex-repeater/38718 "2020-09-17T01:53:49Z")

</div>

I am trying out the RC for 8.1, and noticed on my Flex Repeaters that are showing views that have input/output parameters on them, the output of the parameters is not working. It worked in 8.0.15, but broke after the up…

---

## [\[16426\] Incorrect SessionID from system.perspective.getSessionInfo()](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/16426-incorrect-sessionid-from-system-perspective-getsessioninfo/34036)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@jpark](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jpark)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [May 18, 2020, 6:55pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/16426-incorrect-sessionid-from-system-perspective-getsessioninfo/34036 "2020-05-18T18:55:47Z")

</div>

Ignition 8.0.11 It looks like system.perspective.getSessionInfo() is returning the wrong sessionID for the designer.

---

## [\[Question-Resolved\] Perspective Components (Template)](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/question-resolved-perspective-components-template/21334)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@lasse](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/lasse)\
**Replies:** 23\
**Last updated:** [June 29, 2020, 5:12am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/question-resolved-perspective-components-template/21334 "2020-06-29T05:12:44Z")

</div>

Hi, Is it possible to make a DataType a drop-target for a component/embedded view? Like in Vision. I have searched the forum, and read the manual, but obviously I can't seem to find any information regarding how to d…

---

## [Reports after 8.0.11 or later taking a long time to email pdfs](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/reports-after-8-0-11-or-later-taking-a-long-time-to-email-pdfs/37703)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@rpavlicek](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/rpavlicek)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [September 15, 2020, 11:23pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/reports-after-8-0-11-or-later-taking-a-long-time-to-email-pdfs/37703 "2020-09-15T23:23:28Z")

</div>

We went from 8.0.11 to maybe 13, then on 8.0.15 RC1 (due to an emergency fix) yet not on the stable, but sometime after 8.0.11, we have a fully scripted report that generates 3 pdfs and 3 cvs documents that get emailed. …

---

## [Perspective Slider, handle color](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-slider-handle-color/38710)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@dkylep](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dkylep)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [September 15, 2020, 10:57pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-slider-handle-color/38710 "2020-09-15T22:57:40Z")

</div>

I would like to change the color of the slider handle. (perspective v8.0.16) If I change the ‘handleColor’ property it only changes the border of the handle. Is it possible to change the background color of the handle …

[Previous page](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/c/ignition-8-early-access/10.md?page=28)

[Next page](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/c/ignition-8-early-access/10.md?page=30)
