# Ignition Early Access

**URL:** https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/c/ignition-8-early-access/10.md?page=8

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## [Accessing PDF's from a Database Table in Perspective](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/accessing-pdfs-from-a-database-table-in-perspective/25402)

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**Author:** [@mlatour](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/mlatour)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [December 5, 2023, 1:28pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/accessing-pdfs-from-a-database-table-in-perspective/25402 "2023-12-05T13:28:49Z")

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I know with Perspective, the PDF Viewer will only show PDF’s where there’s a web path because of how a web browser works. What I wanted to see is if there’s a way, and if so, what the best practice is to look at PDF’s, …

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## [Copy and paste is not working in the Designer](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/copy-and-paste-is-not-working-in-the-designer/48154)

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**Author:** [@nader.chinichian](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nader.chinichian)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [December 5, 2023, 3:59am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/copy-and-paste-is-not-working-in-the-designer/48154 "2023-12-05T03:59:31Z")

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Hello, After working with designer about 1 to 2 hours the copy and paste of objects or views in perspective doesn’t work untill I close the designer and open it again. For example after I copy something the paste optio…

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## [Scalar Named Query by Script return empty pyDictionary](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/scalar-named-query-by-script-return-empty-pydictionary/82636)

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**Author:** [@tecnoeletronic](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/tecnoeletronic)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [December 4, 2023, 11:33pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/scalar-named-query-by-script-return-empty-pydictionary/82636 "2023-12-04T23:33:34Z")

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Gateway Version 8.1.32 Hi, i create a very simple "scalar named query" that return a string. The returned string is a rapresentation of a json (nvarchar(max)). When the NQ is called by Designer using the "Testing …

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## [Designer can't get username in Perspective](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/designer-cant-get-username-in-perspective/79958)

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**Author:** [@nader.chinichian](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nader.chinichian)\
**Replies:** 14\
**Last updated:** [October 6, 2023, 9:52pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/designer-cant-get-username-in-perspective/79958 "2023-10-06T21:52:47Z")

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In the older version of Ignition, I can simply get info about the user who is login into the designer by accessing "session.auth.user.userName". But in 8.1.31 this property is always null in the designer environment. A…

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## [Ignition 8 Online Demo Examples](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-online-demo-examples/21118)

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**Author:** [@mraybourn](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/mraybourn)\
**Replies:** 61\
**Last updated:** [December 4, 2023, 6:25pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-online-demo-examples/21118 "2023-12-04T18:25:19Z")

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Since a lot of people have been asking about how certain features of the demo project were accomplished, we thought we would share that with everyone here. The user/password for Ignition is: admin/password \*\*Edit: The …

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## [Download perspective demo project](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/download-perspective-demo-project/23500)

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**Author:** [@chris.roys](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/chris.roys)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [December 1, 2023, 10:36am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/download-perspective-demo-project/23500 "2023-12-01T10:36:34Z")

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Hi I want to study to the demo project of pespective but I don’t find any where to download it. Where can I download the last version of perspective demo project?

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## [New "Authentication Challenge" Feature in Perspective](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-authentication-challenge-feature-in-perspective/57182)

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**Author:** [@jspecht](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jspecht)\
**Replies:** 27\
**Last updated:** [December 1, 2023, 3:56am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-authentication-challenge-feature-in-perspective/57182 "2023-12-01T03:56:53Z")

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Tomorrow’s 8.1.16 early access build should include a new “Authentication Challenge” feature in Perspective. The purpose of this feature is to help customers build better 21 CFR Part 11 compliant applications in Perspec…

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## [PowerChart show label of "disabled" pens](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/powerchart-show-label-of-disabled-pens/82476)

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**Author:** [@tecnoeletronic](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/tecnoeletronic)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [November 29, 2023, 2:26pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/powerchart-show-label-of-disabled-pens/82476 "2023-11-29T14:26:48Z")

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Hello, In a PowerChat, if a pen is disabled, you will still be able to view its value on the X-Trace labels.

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## [iFrame srcdoc property in Perspective](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/iframe-srcdoc-property-in-perspective/81678)

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**Author:** [@jpark](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jpark)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [November 8, 2023, 9:05pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/iframe-srcdoc-property-in-perspective/81678 "2023-11-08T21:05:41Z")

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Any way to set the srcdoc property of the iframe component?

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## [Power chart, are trends always interpolated?](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/power-chart-are-trends-always-interpolated/40416)

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**Author:** [@tordvd](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/tordvd)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [November 7, 2023, 6:10pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/power-chart-are-trends-always-interpolated/40416 "2023-11-07T18:10:39Z")

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As I am trending iOT sensors I would like to view the pens in a digital style. The measurements arrive quite seldom, so if i want to watch the last 24 hours, and i only have 8 measurements, the interpolation makes the t…

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## [Expression get tag parent folder path as string](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/expression-get-tag-parent-folder-path-as-string/32086)

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**Author:** [@Esn](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Esn)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [November 6, 2023, 8:00pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/expression-get-tag-parent-folder-path-as-string/32086 "2023-11-06T20:00:02Z")

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Hi, I’m trying to make an expression that needs the tags parent folder path. Is it possible to get that somehow? {PathToParentFolder} and {\[.\]} doesn’t seem to work. It’s not a UDT. It’s just an expression tag inside…

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## [User ability to save custom built power chart in session](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/user-ability-to-save-custom-built-power-chart-in-session/80875)

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**Author:** [@Aaron\_Phillips](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Aaron_Phillips)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [October 27, 2023, 10:41pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/user-ability-to-save-custom-built-power-chart-in-session/80875 "2023-10-27T22:41:11Z")

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Good Afternoon All, The company I work for provides automation for large scale greenhouses. Currently we utilize power charts for observation of climate levels along with other data. Recently, the customer requested tha…

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## [Unknown designer timeout exception](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unknown-designer-timeout-exception/27274)

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**Author:** [@betti.francesco](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/betti.francesco)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [October 25, 2023, 9:57pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/unknown-designer-timeout-exception/27274 "2023-10-25T21:57:43Z")

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I’m experience a very annoying problem with the designer: I’m developing a couple of views and after a while the designer seems to fall on some kind of unstable status, where every time I save or switch through the views…

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## [WebDev CORS error in V8.1.5](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/webdev-cors-error-in-v8-1-5/49575)

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**Author:** [@jianping.li](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jianping.li)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [October 25, 2023, 4:38am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/webdev-cors-error-in-v8-1-5/49575 "2023-10-25T04:38:14Z")

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I tried to develop a webdev api. And When I create a post method, when I request from client, I entered a cors error. Then I tried to add a cors header like this: servletResp = request\[‘servletResponse’\] servletResp.ad…

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## [Style Class, Support for CSS Custom Properties](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/style-class-support-for-css-custom-properties/80804)

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**Author:** [@bmusson](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/bmusson)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [October 22, 2023, 7:27pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/style-class-support-for-css-custom-properties/80804 "2023-10-22T19:27:29Z")

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If we could assign/redefine custom properties in Style Classes, it would open up a whole range of cascade-based styling options. Currently we can use custom properties in a style class, but there’s no way to define ne…

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## [Perspective Map](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-map/20972)

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**Author:** [@software.development](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/software.development)\
**Replies:** 18\
**Last updated:** [October 17, 2023, 6:21am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-map/20972 "2023-10-17T06:21:35Z")

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As showed here https://demo.inductiveautomation.com/data/perspective/client/OnlineDemo/feature/realtime/maps Ignition has built-in Map Support for OpenStreetMap and Google Maps. I have configured the center position, b…

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## [\[IGN-4907\] UDT Instance reporting "Parent data type has a configuration error" when non are present](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ign-4907-udt-instance-reporting-parent-data-type-has-a-configuration-error-when-non-are-present/30499)

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**Author:** [@md.szyman](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/md.szyman)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [October 16, 2023, 9:47pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ign-4907-udt-instance-reporting-parent-data-type-has-a-configuration-error-when-non-are-present/30499 "2023-10-16T21:47:24Z")

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Shown above is a screenshot of the error I’m seeing. However, when I look at the ModuleState definition, everything is fine and the Diagnostics tab says “Tag definition valid?” is true.

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## [Add change Script to the session.props.id](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/add-change-script-to-the-session-props-id/80522)

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**Author:** [@nader.chinichian](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nader.chinichian)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [October 16, 2023, 1:33pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/add-change-script-to-the-session-props-id/80522 "2023-10-16T13:33:50Z")

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Hi I try to catch the event when someone opens the designer and saves the user info in the database. I try to put my code in the change script event of session.props.id but it seems Ignition can't detect the changes of …

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## [Tab container - centre contents of tab on screen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/tab-container-centre-contents-of-tab-on-screen/23945)

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**Author:** [@ASF](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/ASF)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [April 10, 2019, 3:19am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/tab-container-centre-contents-of-tab-on-screen/23945 "2019-04-10T03:19:16Z")

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I have a perspective view, on which I want to display some reasonably complex graphics (plant overview mimic). Due to size, I’ve split it into three sections, and used a tab view to cycle between Area 1, Area 2, and Area…

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## [New DNP3 driver - will it support group 30 variation 0 object?](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-dnp3-driver-will-it-support-group-30-variation-0-object/79890)

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**Author:** [@msteele](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/msteele)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [September 30, 2023, 8:54pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-dnp3-driver-will-it-support-group-30-variation-0-object/79890 "2023-09-30T20:54:09Z")

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We'd love to use this as our standard variation for group 30 analog input objects where we can define the default datatype on our RTAC. Will g30v0 be supported in the updated DNP3 driver?

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## [How to restart Ignition Gateway after computer restart?](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/how-to-restart-ignition-gateway-after-computer-restart/79760)

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**Author:** [@Chunli\_Lu](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Chunli_Lu)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 27, 2023, 11:34pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/how-to-restart-ignition-gateway-after-computer-restart/79760 "2023-09-27T23:34:17Z")

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Hi Folks: I am new with Ignition. I downloaded and install the Standard Edition, ran for two hours, and I know how to reset the trial timer. However, at the second day, I had hard time to figure out how to start the Igni…

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## [Milo Demo Server: Error decoding asymmetric message](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/milo-demo-server-error-decoding-asymmetric-message/79658)

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**Author:** [@Ken\_Watson](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Ken_Watson)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [September 26, 2023, 5:44pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/milo-demo-server-error-decoding-asymmetric-message/79658 "2023-09-26T17:44:22Z")

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I am using Milo demo server for some testing of our OPC-UA client. I have Java 11 installed on my linux box, and when I run the Milo server there, i have no issues. I also have Java 11 installed on my windows machine, …

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## [\[Bug-12795\] Popup Title Bar Should Not Be Required In Certain Instances](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-12795-popup-title-bar-should-not-be-required-in-certain-instances/22675)

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**Author:** [@joe.friedrich](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/joe.friedrich)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [September 22, 2023, 3:33pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-12795-popup-title-bar-should-not-be-required-in-certain-instances/22675 "2023-09-22T15:33:44Z")

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I’m calling a popup window via system.perspective.openPopup(). Tried this but I didn’t like the Title Bar that appears. system.perspective.openPopup(‘uniqueName’, ‘popupLocation’) Noticed that the close window was in…

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## [\[BUG-14527\] Perspective Browser Crashing w/ Memory issue](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-14527-perspective-browser-crashing-w-memory-issue/27493)

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**Author:** [@roger\_larson](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/roger_larson)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [September 22, 2023, 8:09am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-14527-perspective-browser-crashing-w-memory-issue/27493 "2023-09-22T08:09:10Z")

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Hi all, I have an issue where some of the perspective screens we have made, once displayed on a browser, and if left alone for awhile, crashes the page with a “Not enough memory to open this page”. Refreshing the page f…

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## [Flex Repeater Script Instance Additions](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/flex-repeater-script-instance-additions/28155)

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**Author:** [@MikeAllgood](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/MikeAllgood)\
**Replies:** 13\
**Last updated:** [September 21, 2023, 11:51am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/flex-repeater-script-instance-additions/28155 "2023-09-21T11:51:29Z")

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I am trying to figure out how to dynamically add instances to a flex repeater in a Perspective View. I've not seen much in the way of how to do this, but the one thread seemed to indicate there may be a bug in the funct…

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## [\[FEATURE-14187\] Perspective table edit enable / disable](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/feature-14187-perspective-table-edit-enable-disable/25396)

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**Author:** [@Transistor](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Transistor)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 20, 2023, 2:15am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/feature-14187-perspective-table-edit-enable-disable/25396 "2023-09-20T02:15:14Z")

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Following on from our blinding success with Perspective table edit example, please and Perspective table edit - retrieve the "before edit" value in script here is the next query in the adventure. We have some columns on…

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## [\[FEATURE-1260\] The 'localhost' IP Address doesn't detect in Security Zone](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/feature-1260-the-localhost-ip-address-doesnt-detect-in-security-zone/40098)

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**Author:** [@nader.chinichian](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nader.chinichian)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [September 12, 2023, 3:43am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/feature-1260-the-localhost-ip-address-doesnt-detect-in-security-zone/40098 "2023-09-12T03:43:33Z")

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Hi I try to add localhost as IP address in a Security Zone but it seems it doesn’t detect localhost. But interesting 127.0.0.1 is working even both 127.0.0.1 = localhost. So what should I do when I want to add localhos…

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## [XY Chart Tooltip](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/xy-chart-tooltip/78947)

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**Author:** [@samer\_samy](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/samer_samy)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [September 10, 2023, 1:09pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/xy-chart-tooltip/78947 "2023-09-10T13:09:32Z")

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Dears, as you see below the label is shown on the line as a circle bullet and everything is fine ,all the credit goes to the friends in our community to help me show the label . But I have a new challenge that I can no…

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## [Ignition's embedded runtime bumped to Java 17 from Java 11 in the 9/8/2023 Nightly build](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignitions-embedded-runtime-bumped-to-java-17-from-java-11-in-the-9-8-2023-nightly-build/78933)

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**Author:** [@jcoffman](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jcoffman)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [September 8, 2023, 8:56pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignitions-embedded-runtime-bumped-to-java-17-from-java-11-in-the-9-8-2023-nightly-build/78933 "2023-09-08T20:56:28Z")

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Hi all, This shouldn't affect most users, but the information posted for Module Development is below for the curious. https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/upcoming-java-17-migration-for-ignition-8-1

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## [Nightly Changelogs Stopped? (Sept 2023)](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/nightly-changelogs-stopped-sept-2023/78817)

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**Author:** [@justin.brzozoski](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/justin.brzozoski)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [September 6, 2023, 5:19pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/nightly-changelogs-stopped-sept-2023/78817 "2023-09-06T17:19:43Z")

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The nightly changelog thread hasn't been updated in 11 days. What's going on?

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