# Ignition

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## [About the Ignition category](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/about-the-ignition-category/12)

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**Author:** [@system](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/system)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [December 1, 2007, 2:49am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/about-the-ignition-category/12 "2007-12-01T02:49:16Z")

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The Ignition category is where you can make posts specific to Ignition by Inductive Automation. You can ask for help with troubleshooting, architecture and system design, or you can share a cool project you're working on…

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## [Feature requests have moved](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/feature-requests-have-moved/9267)

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**Author:** [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [April 21, 2023, 1:00pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/feature-requests-have-moved/9267 "2023-04-21T13:00:06Z")

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Feature requests are now being handled at ideas.inductiveautomation.com/ Please, post there from this point forward!

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## [Looking for Best Practice for multiple copies of a OEM project on same gateway](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/looking-for-best-practice-for-multiple-copies-of-a-oem-project-on-same-gateway/117472)

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**Author:** [@pmo](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pmo)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [October 14, 2026, 5:19am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/looking-for-best-practice-for-multiple-copies-of-a-oem-project-on-same-gateway/117472 "2026-10-14T05:19:11Z")

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I am working on a new Vision project that is going to be controlling one machine/process. After we get this project done, we are going to duplicate the project 5 more times on the same gateway to control 5 other machine…

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## [Ignition Edge/Gateway Architecture Questions](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-edge-gateway-architecture-questions/117417)

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**Author:** [@r123](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/r123)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [October 14, 2026, 4:42am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-edge-gateway-architecture-questions/117417 "2026-10-14T04:42:45Z")

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The site has 10 different buildings, each with a dedicated PC. Initially, we were told there would be no interconnectivity between buildings. Because of licensing costs, the original thought was to use Ignition Edge Pane…

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## [Perspective Menu Disappears in Ignition 8.3.x Designer After Using Ignition 8.1.x Designer on the Same PC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-menu-disappears-in-ignition-8-3-x-designer-after-using-ignition-8-1-x-designer-on-the-same-pc/117475)

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**Author:** [@yksun](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/yksun)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [October 14, 2026, 4:24am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-menu-disappears-in-ignition-8-3-x-designer-after-using-ignition-8-1-x-designer-on-the-same-pc/117475 "2026-10-14T04:24:12Z")

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Hello everyone, I am experiencing an issue where the Perspective menu disappears from the Ignition 8.3.x Designer after switching between Ignition 8.1.x and 8.3.x environments on the same Windows PC. I would like to kn…

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## [Chart component showing error with no apparent issue](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/chart-component-showing-error-with-no-apparent-issue/117470)

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**Author:** [@imt.sebastian.sanche](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/imt.sebastian.sanche)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [October 13, 2026, 9:17pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/chart-component-showing-error-with-no-apparent-issue/117470 "2026-10-13T21:17:38Z")

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I have a PLC where I'm pulling the data from arrays and inserting it into a dataset one of the columns is a date but its put out as a string and Ignition will not format it correctly so I have to import datetime, use dat…

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## [Designer Find/Replace doesn't have permissions to rename tag](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/designer-find-replace-doesnt-have-permissions-to-rename-tag/117436)

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**Author:** [@r123](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/r123)\
**Replies:** 13\
**Last updated:** [October 13, 2026, 9:15pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/designer-find-replace-doesnt-have-permissions-to-rename-tag/117436 "2026-10-13T21:15:05Z")

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I can go to the tag browser in the same designer and rename the tag. If I attempt to do this from Find/Replace, I get a message saying that it failed: "Insufficient Tag Provider Edit Permissions"

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## [Occasional Clock Drifts](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/occasional-clock-drifts/31689)

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**Author:** [@grietveld](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/grietveld)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [October 13, 2026, 7:14pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/occasional-clock-drifts/31689 "2026-10-13T19:14:37Z")

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Version: 8.0.7 Any idea what might cause these occasional clock drifts? We didn’t see any during our debug, but when we moved to the final hardware, they started occuring every now and then. Resources seem to all be fai…

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## [Use a tag’s Value as a part of another OPC Tag’s path](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/use-a-tag-s-value-as-a-part-of-another-opc-tag-s-path/117427)

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**Author:** [@Frank\_Pockele](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Frank_Pockele)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [October 13, 2026, 4:11pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/use-a-tag-s-value-as-a-part-of-another-opc-tag-s-path/117427 "2026-10-13T16:11:44Z")

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I am studying how to convert an RTAP system with 65K datapoints to an Ignition System. As starting point I took the PAX tree, these are all Passenger bridges. In total there are 130 bridges, 45 different types of bridg…

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## [\[IGN-18293\] Form Submit Button](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ign-18293-form-submit-button/117245)

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**Author:** [@sabeeha.hazmi](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/sabeeha.hazmi)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [October 13, 2026, 2:51pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ign-18293-form-submit-button/117245 "2026-10-13T14:51:09Z")

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I am using ignition version 8.3.7. I have a Form component with the submit button configured to trigger a run of a onSubmitActionPerformed script. This is how my submit tree look like currently in designer: However, …

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## [Horizontal Menu Item Target Issue](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/horizontal-menu-item-target-issue/117433)

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**Author:** [@andrew.borkowski](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/andrew.borkowski)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [October 13, 2026, 12:12pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/horizontal-menu-item-target-issue/117433 "2026-10-13T12:12:28Z")

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I am using the horizontal menu component and have several items that all navigate to the correct view in the item target location, which the exception of item 13 out of 14. The item target value is the same as another it…

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## [Form Fields reset/lose their values](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/form-fields-reset-lose-their-values/117432)

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**Author:** [@turner.warren](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/turner.warren)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [October 13, 2026, 5:26am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/form-fields-reset-lose-their-values/117432 "2026-10-13T05:26:21Z")

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We have a form that lab techs will input data into after some testing, they will pre-fill the form while the test finishes, but for some reason that information will disappear. Has anyone run into anything like this? Th…

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## [Cloud Edition in Azure on CSP](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cloud-edition-in-azure-on-csp/92141)

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**Author:** [@Magnus\_Dyroy](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Magnus_Dyroy)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [October 12, 2026, 10:56pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cloud-edition-in-azure-on-csp/92141 "2026-10-12T22:56:05Z")

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I tried purchasing Cloud Edition via Azure Marketplace, but we are met with a restriction regarding subscription type. Is the product really not available via CSP subscriptions? The region is Norway which so it shouldn…

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## [OPC-DA Connection Issues With Red Lion OPCWorx Server](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/opc-da-connection-issues-with-red-lion-opcworx-server/117429)

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**Author:** [@coyne.321](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/coyne.321)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [October 12, 2026, 10:28pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/opc-da-connection-issues-with-red-lion-opcworx-server/117429 "2026-10-12T22:28:25Z")

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Hi, I'm struggling to connect to an OPCWorx server, which is provided by Red Lion Controls. This server is running on the same Windows 10 VM that my Ignition gateway (v8.3.9) is on. The progID shows up automatically wh…

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## [Gateway Event Script "system.dataset.toCSV"](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/gateway-event-script-system-dataset-tocsv/117435)

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**Author:** [@juliom](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/juliom)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [October 12, 2026, 10:24pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/gateway-event-script-system-dataset-tocsv/117435 "2026-10-12T22:24:38Z")

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Igntion 8.1.55 I have a script that works fine when run through a button or the script console, but when it is executed as a gateway event (tag change), it doesn't populate the data from the historian. The attachment on…

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## [Is there a way to set read only for remote tag providers?](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/is-there-a-way-to-set-read-only-for-remote-tag-providers/117424)

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**Author:** [@travisaggiebrown](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/travisaggiebrown)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [October 12, 2026, 2:41pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/is-there-a-way-to-set-read-only-for-remote-tag-providers/117424 "2026-10-12T14:41:15Z")

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I'm trying to set up a gateway for reporting so I need it to be read only so that users can't change tag values but can read them. it seems that there is a read only option on the opc-ua server but that doesn't seem to …

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## [Ignition 8.3 CI/CD Tutorial](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-3-ci-cd-tutorial/114309)

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**Author:** [@louagejasper](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/louagejasper)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [October 12, 2026, 2:02pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-3-ci-cd-tutorial/114309 "2026-10-12T14:02:40Z")

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Hi all, I don't want to plug in my work too much, but I feel it's really relevant in this community. if anyone has interest in this topic, I've made a video on how to do CI/CD in Ignition 8.3: https://www.youtube.com/w…

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## [Use a tag's Value as a part of another OPC Tag's path](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/use-a-tags-value-as-a-part-of-another-opc-tags-path/16209)

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**Author:** [@Sparkblender](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Sparkblender)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [October 12, 2026, 1:49pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/use-a-tags-value-as-a-part-of-another-opc-tags-path/16209 "2026-10-12T13:49:19Z")

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Hello Everybody. I was wondering if it would be possible to construct a Tag's source path (e.g. an OPC Tag's path) by using a combination of strings and dynamic Values from other tags. For instance, I have two UDT in…

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## [Gateway hung at running after sudden power loss](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/gateway-hung-at-running-after-sudden-power-loss/117419)

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**Author:** [@adam.paliotti](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/adam.paliotti)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [October 12, 2026, 1:09pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/gateway-hung-at-running-after-sudden-power-loss/117419 "2026-10-12T13:09:29Z")

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The gateway 8.1.39 stays stuck like "gateway is running" and the wrapper usually stalls saying loading SQL Bridge module or TCP UDP module failed because it can't find a table. This gateway is tucked away on an OT networ…

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## [XY Chart Bullet Label](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/xy-chart-bullet-label/117018)

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**Author:** [@aircapital.engineer](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/aircapital.engineer)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [October 12, 2026, 12:38pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/xy-chart-bullet-label/117018 "2026-10-12T12:38:21Z")

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Is there way to manipulate the size of bullet labels on an XY Chart? The only way I've managed to do it so far is via the chart's style, but that affects the entire chart.

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## [Vision Power Table Runtime Sort and Filter Jython Get & Set](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/vision-power-table-runtime-sort-and-filter-jython-get-set/117398)

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**Author:** [@Drew\_Hitchcock](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Drew_Hitchcock)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [October 12, 2026, 12:19pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/vision-power-table-runtime-sort-and-filter-jython-get-set/117398 "2026-10-12T12:19:39Z")

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I have a few Vision Power Tables in an application. The client asked if I could make sorts and filters applied during runtime persist when they navigate away from the screen and return. Could implement this with a change…

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## [Uncertain\_InitialValue for query tags after update from 8.1.45 to 8.1.55](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/uncertain-initialvalue-for-query-tags-after-update-from-8-1-45-to-8-1-55/117405)

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**Author:** [@Ervin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Ervin)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [October 12, 2026, 6:25am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/uncertain-initialvalue-for-query-tags-after-update-from-8-1-45-to-8-1-55/117405 "2026-10-12T06:25:16Z")

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Uncertain\_InitialValue for query tags after update from 8.1.45 to 8.1.55 I intended to update all 6 gateways FrontEnd-Master and Backup, IO1-master and backup and IO2-master and backup I started with IO2-backup and fol…

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## [Perspecitve - Firefox - Binding not updating](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspecitve-firefox-binding-not-updating/117420)

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**Author:** [@jeena.joseph](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jeena.joseph)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [October 12, 2026, 5:25am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspecitve-firefox-binding-not-updating/117420 "2026-10-12T05:25:16Z")

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Hi all, I am using Firefox to view the session (Ignition 8.1.52). On my view there is a button with enable binding linked to security. (true/false depending on if the user has all the necessary security levels). When i …

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## [Adding Icons to Perspective Icon Library](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/adding-icons-to-perspective-icon-library/80357)

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**Author:** [@Seamus\_Gallagher](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Seamus_Gallagher)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [October 12, 2026, 4:37am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/adding-icons-to-perspective-icon-library/80357 "2026-10-12T04:37:34Z")

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Hello, In searching the catalog of icons in Google Fonts, I come across a lot of useful icons that are not available to select in Ignition designer. This is especially annoying for the Menu Tree component, which seems t…

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## [How do you track changes in UDT.json with GitHub?](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/how-do-you-track-changes-in-udt-json-with-github/117413)

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**Author:** [@tiennq20](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/tiennq20)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2026, 6:29pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/how-do-you-track-changes-in-udt-json-with-github/117413 "2026-10-09T18:29:54Z")

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Hi everyone, I'm trying to track changes for UDT.json files in GitHub. I've noticed that each time I export a UDT to JSON, the file structure and property ordering can change, even when there are only minor modificatio…

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## [StackOverflowError on jsonEncode of dict containing Dataset](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/stackoverflowerror-on-jsonencode-of-dict-containing-dataset/117401)

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**Author:** [@eaolson](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/eaolson)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2026, 3:28pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/stackoverflowerror-on-jsonencode-of-dict-containing-dataset/117401 "2026-10-09T15:28:54Z")

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I need to persist some objects into my database and the quickest way seemed to be to convert them to JSON, then save that. That works ok with a Dataset, but fails on an object that contains a Dataset. d = system.dataset…

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## [Ignition in my own words, whats yours?](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-in-my-own-words-whats-yours/117409)

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**Author:** [@Eugene49](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Eugene49)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2026, 2:21pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-in-my-own-words-whats-yours/117409 "2026-10-09T14:21:47Z")

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This is how i describe ignition in my own words. Ignition is like the C++ of data engineering. Its capabilities include, but are certainly not limited to, data integration, collection, transmission, storage, visualizati…

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## [Cannot connect designer to master when backup is active](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cannot-connect-designer-to-master-when-backup-is-active/114194)

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**Author:** [@scott](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/scott)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2026, 12:37pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cannot-connect-designer-to-master-when-backup-is-active/114194 "2026-10-09T12:37:38Z")

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Our customer has recently implemented redundancy for their Ignition gateway and is currently soak testing running the backup to monitor if there are any issues (firewalls, hardcoded hostnames, etc) I am trying to connec…

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## [Credential caching on Perspective Mobile App](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/credential-caching-on-perspective-mobile-app/117406)

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**Author:** [@rob.claassen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/rob.claassen)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2026, 7:07am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/credential-caching-on-perspective-mobile-app/117406 "2026-10-09T07:07:43Z")

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Hi, We run Ignition 8.3.8 with Perspective and authenticate against the built-in Ignition identity provider. I’m looking for how others handle logins in the Perspective mobile app on iOS. Has anyone got password autofil…

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## [Wrapping of Menu item](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/wrapping-of-menu-item/117385)

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**Author:** [@sanjanakrishnamurthy](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/sanjanakrishnamurthy)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2026, 4:19am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/wrapping-of-menu-item/117385 "2026-10-09T04:19:06Z")

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Hi, I'm using a Tree component here. How do i wrap a menu-item? Thanks!

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