# Ignition

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## [Issues Upgrading from Version 7.7.2 to 8.1.3](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/issues-upgrading-from-version-7-7-2-to-8-1-3/45551)

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**Author:** [@f.boz](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/f.boz)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [June 11, 2021, 6:15pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/issues-upgrading-from-version-7-7-2-to-8-1-3/45551 "2021-06-11T18:15:30Z")

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Hi! We are trying to upgrade Ignition 7.7.2 with OpenJDK 1.8.0 to Ignition 8.1.3. First of all, the installer doesn’t recognize the previous version. Second, and more important, once we upgrade with a different name of…

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## [Can Ignition run in Docker containers?](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/can-ignition-run-in-docker-containers/47703)

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**Author:** [@krish](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/krish)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [June 11, 2021, 5:25pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/can-ignition-run-in-docker-containers/47703 "2021-06-11T17:25:48Z")

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Few quick questions. Are there any customers running Ignition components (Gateway, Modules) in Docker containers? If not, in theory, is it possible to containerize Ignition and run components as stateless services, and…

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## [\[BUG\] Some clients aren't receiving the gateway updates possibly](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-some-clients-arent-receiving-the-gateway-updates-possibly/41295)

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**Author:** [@bmeyers](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/bmeyers)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [June 11, 2021, 4:30pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-some-clients-arent-receiving-the-gateway-updates-possibly/41295 "2021-06-11T16:30:40Z")

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Good morning, I am working on a gateway with possibly 20 clients that should be all configured the same. I have updates set to auto push. I use a lot of diagnostic messages in my scripts like: backend.messageHandler('b…

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## [Tag History not recording at start of the hour](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/tag-history-not-recording-at-start-of-the-hour/47698)

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**Author:** [@kstewart](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/kstewart)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [June 11, 2021, 4:20pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/tag-history-not-recording-at-start-of-the-hour/47698 "2021-06-11T16:20:26Z")

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I am having an issue with a couple of my history tags, I have them set to record the data every hour using a Periodic sample mode. It is recording the data I want but the time that it is recording is not at the start of …

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## [Stored Procedure Transaction Group - RETURN\_VALUE](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/stored-procedure-transaction-group-return-value/35166)

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**Author:** [@jholloway](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jholloway)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [June 11, 2021, 3:45pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/stored-procedure-transaction-group-return-value/35166 "2021-06-11T15:45:21Z")

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I am having some issues with the Stored Procedure Transaction Group and returning a table that my procedure is creating. I have tried writing the table to a variety of tag types but can not find any documentation on how …

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## [Multiple styles in custom SVG](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/multiple-styles-in-custom-svg/47656)

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**Author:** [@jcoghlin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jcoghlin)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [June 11, 2021, 1:53pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/multiple-styles-in-custom-svg/47656 "2021-06-11T13:53:20Z")

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I have a custom SVG file with three different icons I would like to add. Is there any way I can have different styles for each of my icons? Currently, the second two icons use the same style when they are both on the s…

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## [Problem after Ignition Update - Scaling in Designer and Clients](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/problem-after-ignition-update-scaling-in-designer-and-clients/47645)

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**Author:** [@OscarJ](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/OscarJ)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [June 11, 2021, 12:55pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/problem-after-ignition-update-scaling-in-designer-and-clients/47645 "2021-06-11T12:55:39Z")

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I have problems with client and designer scaling, it worked fine in 7.9 but in 8.1.5 it looks like this on all computers. This is my designer Client

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## [Perspective: Power Chart Background Color](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-power-chart-background-color/46166)

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**Author:** [@byrcharl](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/byrcharl)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [June 11, 2021, 11:41am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-power-chart-background-color/46166 "2021-06-11T11:41:33Z")

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Ok I have two problems both related to changing the color of a prop. First i love my “Dark Mode” and im looking for the prop/style that will change the background color of the power chart to black? Second I am able to ch…

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## [Transaction group 'Running' but not](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/transaction-group-running-but-not/47683)

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**Author:** [@Claus\_Nielsen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Claus_Nielsen)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [June 11, 2021, 7:00am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/transaction-group-running-but-not/47683 "2021-06-11T07:00:52Z")

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Having a ‘Block Group’ transaction group running at a 1 second timer schedule. Sometimes the group stops triggering but the group is shown as ‘Running’. I have no trigger set up and there’s no quarantined items. Am I do…

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## [Perspective Remote Access User Authentication](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-remote-access-user-authentication/47679)

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**Author:** [@yifan.jiang](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/yifan.jiang)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [June 11, 2021, 5:35am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-remote-access-user-authentication/47679 "2021-06-11T05:35:49Z")

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Hi All We are running Ignition 8.1.13 and are trying to using AWS EC2 as reverse proxy to allow internet access using the perspective APP. However, since the upgrade to redirect perspective app to system browser for log…

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## [POWER CHART (range reference line)](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/power-chart-range-reference-line/46436)

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**Author:** [@patricio.rojas.bolom](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/patricio.rojas.bolom)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [June 11, 2021, 5:09am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/power-chart-range-reference-line/46436 "2021-06-11T05:09:16Z")

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I need to add two permanent lines that show the ideal operating range (POWER CHART), as I show in the photo, how can I do it? Necesito agregar dos lineas permanentes que muestren el rango de operacion ideal (POWER CH…

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## [\[BUG\] Phantom tags being historically logged](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-phantom-tags-being-historically-logged/47637)

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**Author:** [@nminchin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nminchin)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [June 10, 2021, 8:24am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-phantom-tags-being-historically-logged/47637 "2021-06-10T08:24:51Z")

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v8.1.5 I have a very strange issue. I have 4144 tags that are being logged to history that don’t exist in the tag browser, but that have recent (as in to now) history being logged for them, and they’re not just 0’s or n…

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## [Where is the Designer log viewer diagnostics info stored?](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/where-is-the-designer-log-viewer-diagnostics-info-stored/47632)

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**Author:** [@nminchin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nminchin)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [June 11, 2021, 12:21am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/where-is-the-designer-log-viewer-diagnostics-info-stored/47632 "2021-06-11T00:21:53Z")

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Is there a file that stores the things visible from the log viewer section in the designer diagnostics?

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## [Perspective PDF Viewer frustrations](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-pdf-viewer-frustrations/47674)

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**Author:** [@reed.arvin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/reed.arvin)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [June 10, 2021, 9:34pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-pdf-viewer-frustrations/47674 "2021-06-10T21:34:18Z")

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Hello friends, We’re trying to use the Perspective PDF Viewer to display a PDF on a remote web site. The internal web site hosting the PDF requires authentication and, after authenticating, the session information is st…

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## [PowerChart Scroll Buttons](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/powerchart-scroll-buttons/47634)

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**Author:** [@matthew.roberts](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/matthew.roberts)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [June 10, 2021, 9:30pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/powerchart-scroll-buttons/47634 "2021-06-10T21:30:17Z")

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Can someone please help me with Power Chart. I have a chart that is configured to open in realtime mode with unitOfTime 24 hours. I would like to have a button that will that will scroll the chart back in time, to the …

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## [SQL Query Referencing Dataset](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/sql-query-referencing-dataset/47664)

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**Author:** [@blogsdon](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/blogsdon)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [June 10, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/sql-query-referencing-dataset/47664 "2021-06-10T20:17:06Z")

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Is it possible to reference a dataset (tag) inside of an SQL query tag? For example: This of course returns a syntax error. “Welding 1 WC” is another SQL query tag with a DataSet Data Type and “Resource Child” is th…

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## [\[Feature-14084\] Provide Docked View Handle Customization](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/feature-14084-provide-docked-view-handle-customization/25493)

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**Author:** [@indenkleefj](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/indenkleefj)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [June 10, 2021, 5:48pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/feature-14084-provide-docked-view-handle-customization/25493 "2021-06-10T17:48:11Z")

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Hi, I am using a shared screen which is called on demand. The on demand screen can be called through the button that is shown. I want to make the button a lot bigger, is there an way to do this? Thank you

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## [Database Connection Error](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/database-connection-error/46336)

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**Author:** [@jdelgado](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jdelgado)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [June 10, 2021, 4:59pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/database-connection-error/46336 "2021-06-10T16:59:46Z")

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Hi, I have an application that has been running for a few years and the customer call me today to let me know they stop collecting data. I check the database connection and I have an error. With the following msg: Can…

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## [Question about user management, tags and alarms](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/question-about-user-management-tags-and-alarms/47658)

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**Author:** [@dzohner](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dzohner)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [June 10, 2021, 4:59pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/question-about-user-management-tags-and-alarms/47658 "2021-06-10T16:59:19Z")

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What I’m trying to do is have two parts to my project, I’ll call Part A and Part B. I want Part A workers to only see alarms pertinent to their process, and the same for Part B workers. This would be tied to the alarm …

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## [Output Console appears offscreen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/output-console-appears-offscreen/47651)

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**Author:** [@zacslade](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/zacslade)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [June 10, 2021, 4:09pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/output-console-appears-offscreen/47651 "2021-06-10T16:09:32Z")

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Hi Guys, These days, when I open Ignition Designer, the output console and database query browser open with it in separate windows. The query browser appears partially off-screen, and the output console appears somewher…

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## [Access UDT memeber meta data inside of template](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/access-udt-memeber-meta-data-inside-of-template/27507)

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**Author:** [@nader.chinichian](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nader.chinichian)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [June 10, 2021, 3:56pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/access-udt-memeber-meta-data-inside-of-template/27507 "2021-06-10T15:56:26Z")

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Hi I want to access EngUnit metadata of one of my member UDT in a template but browsing UDT inside template only bring TagName and tagPath. How Can I reach them?

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## [Vision - IP Camera Viewer - multi-channel camera](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/vision-ip-camera-viewer-multi-channel-camera/47650)

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**Author:** [@dion.botha](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dion.botha)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [June 10, 2021, 3:13pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/vision-ip-camera-viewer-multi-channel-camera/47650 "2021-06-10T15:13:13Z")

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Hi Guys, We have a few single channel ip cameras around our facility, some of which I have been able to use the Vision - IP Camera Viewer to embedd into some of my applications. To connect to these I use soemthing like h…

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## [Duplicate historical data in power table](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/duplicate-historical-data-in-power-table/47602)

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**Author:** [@lachguerabdallah](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/lachguerabdallah)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [June 10, 2021, 1:48pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/duplicate-historical-data-in-power-table/47602 "2021-06-10T13:48:45Z")

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I have a power table where I show the hisotorial of two tags, but it shows duplicate rows as you can see in the screenshot. is it normal or am i doing something wrong? Thank you.

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## [Scripting User Language in Perspective](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/scripting-user-language-in-perspective/47600)

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**Author:** [@agriner](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/agriner)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [June 10, 2021, 1:48pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/scripting-user-language-in-perspective/47600 "2021-06-10T13:48:20Z")

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If you go into the gateway and attempt to edit a user, ‘Language’ is listed as a user property. In the Perspective app I’m working on, we have a User Management page created but I don’t see a system scripting function i…

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## [OPC UA scan class issue with Ignition 7.6](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/opc-ua-scan-class-issue-with-ignition-7-6/47340)

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**Author:** [@serz2](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/serz2)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [June 10, 2021, 12:57pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/opc-ua-scan-class-issue-with-ignition-7-6/47340 "2021-06-10T12:57:23Z")

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Hello all, I am using Ignition 7.6 to read values from OPC UA server. I use scan class with direct mode and slow rate 10000ms. Tags are read every 5000ms not 10000ms, when I try to set any value less than 5000ms tags ar…

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## [::Meta.TagName in perspective](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/meta-tagname-in-perspective/47624)

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**Author:** [@edgar\_chaires](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/edgar_chaires)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [June 10, 2021, 9:40am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/meta-tagname-in-perspective/47624 "2021-06-10T09:40:43Z")

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Hello, I have an application in Vision, in that application, I have a template called “Station”, inside I have an UDT called SimpleStation and a label with the text binding to the expression: substring({Station.SimpleS…

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## [Suggestions for my source control](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/suggestions-for-my-source-control/47416)

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**Author:** [@calimero100582](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/calimero100582)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [June 10, 2021, 1:54am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/suggestions-for-my-source-control/47416 "2021-06-10T01:54:44Z")

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So I’m creating this project to manage source on Ignition, using JGit, that will eventually support Pull and Push, and add a md documentation file to project and global folder git\_2021-06-03\_1203.zip (65.7 KB) I will p…

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## [Display Moxa Camera in Perspective Video Player](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/display-moxa-camera-in-perspective-video-player/47628)

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**Author:** [@tomas.jankovsky](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/tomas.jankovsky)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [June 10, 2021, 12:26am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/display-moxa-camera-in-perspective-video-player/47628 "2021-06-10T00:26:24Z")

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I have a Moxa Camera (VPort P06-2M36M). I cannot get it connected to display in Perspective Video Player. Does anyone have information how to set up URL link for Moxa cameras?

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## [Number of Members in a Role](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/number-of-members-in-a-role/47611)

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**Author:** [@sbeauregard66](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/sbeauregard66)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [June 9, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/number-of-members-in-a-role/47611 "2021-06-09T21:25:58Z")

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Hi there. Wondering if there is a way to get the number of members in a role? I can see this number in the “User Management” component but I cannot find how to access this number. I would like to create an alarm if th…

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## [\[BUG-2608\] - 8.1 Perspective - Column Container not opening at correct breakpoint](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-2608-8-1-perspective-column-container-not-opening-at-correct-breakpoint/40227)

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**Author:** [@michael2](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/michael2)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [June 9, 2021, 8:43pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-2608-8-1-perspective-column-container-not-opening-at-correct-breakpoint/40227 "2021-06-09T20:43:21Z")

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As title suggests. When first navigating to a page, the column container will sometimes not have the correct breakpoint. when the viewport dimensions change it corrects.

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