# Ignition

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## [Udts without instance Tags count toward the tag count?](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/udts-without-instance-tags-count-toward-the-tag-count/116740)

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**Author:** [@philin15](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/philin15)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [August 11, 2026, 5:47pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/udts-without-instance-tags-count-toward-the-tag-count/116740 "2026-08-11T17:47:57Z")

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As you can see, in the 'udtTest' tag provider I only create a udt library, but the tag count is already 48326. My question are: 1.if I don't create any instance of these udts, it still count toward the tag co…

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## [Stored NULL values come back as 0.0 from history queries (SQL Historian and SDK historians)](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/stored-null-values-come-back-as-0-0-from-history-queries-sql-historian-and-sdk-historians/116753)

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**Author:** [@sam.donche](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/sam.donche)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [August 11, 2026, 3:07pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/stored-null-values-come-back-as-0-0-from-history-queries-sql-historian-and-sdk-historians/116753 "2026-08-11T15:07:11Z")

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We're building a custom historian module for timescaledb on the 8.3 Historian SDK (gateway 8.3.3) and got a bug report that NULL values in history read back as 0.0. After digging in, it turns out this isn't specific to o…

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## [Iframe url doesn't load when app launched from perspective workstation](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/iframe-url-doesnt-load-when-app-launched-from-perspective-workstation/116602)

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**Author:** [@aymen.mehrez.ca](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/aymen.mehrez.ca)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [August 11, 2026, 2:01pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/iframe-url-doesnt-load-when-app-launched-from-perspective-workstation/116602 "2026-08-11T14:01:29Z")

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Hi, am having an issue, where am adding a popup that opens a MS form, when i launch the app from the browser, it loads fine. However it just shows blank panel when i do so in perspective workstation (that is basically …

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## [Migrating Ignition from local server to cloud ( licensing questions)](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/migrating-ignition-from-local-server-to-cloud-licensing-questions/116745)

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**Author:** [@Filippos\_Onisiforou](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Filippos_Onisiforou)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [August 11, 2026, 1:17pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/migrating-ignition-from-local-server-to-cloud-licensing-questions/116745 "2026-08-11T13:17:29Z")

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Hi all, I'm planning to migrate our Ignition Gateway from a local on-premise server to a cloud server (e.g., AWS/Azure/GCP), and I want to make sure I handle the licensing correctly before starting. A few questions: L…

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## [\[IGN-16691\]Gateway Event Script Compile Error](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ign-16691-gateway-event-script-compile-error/116115)

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**Author:** [@lenny.toscano](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/lenny.toscano)\
**Replies:** 13\
**Last updated:** [August 11, 2026, 12:42pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ign-16691-gateway-event-script-compile-error/116115 "2026-08-11T12:42:05Z")

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I'm not sure if I'm crazy or what but I'm running into a compile error when trying to save a script for a Gateway Event. Crazy thing it I'm positive I was not getting this error running on 8.3.2. Then I upgraded to 8.3.…

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## [Transaction group stuck 'unable to start' after reboot, no way to monitor or auto-recover?](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/transaction-group-stuck-unable-to-start-after-reboot-no-way-to-monitor-or-auto-recover/116733)

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**Author:** [@swest](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/swest)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [August 10, 2026, 7:50pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/transaction-group-stuck-unable-to-start-after-reboot-no-way-to-monitor-or-auto-recover/116733 "2026-08-10T19:50:33Z")

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We're on Ignition 8.3.7. When SQL Server isn't up yet at gateway reboot, the first transaction group to load fails to start and doesn't retry. Every other group in the project handles the same outage fine and starts degr…

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## [JDBC and MSSQL Datetimeoffset](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/jdbc-and-mssql-datetimeoffset/107729)

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**Author:** [@nicole.c](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nicole.c)\
**Replies:** 20\
**Last updated:** [August 10, 2026, 6:41pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/jdbc-and-mssql-datetimeoffset/107729 "2026-08-10T18:41:51Z")

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Hi all, Long time reader, first time poster. :slight\_smile: I was looking into some discussions here about the JDBC driver for SQL Server and Ignition and I'm a little confused as to why everything doesn't play nicely …

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## [Component Security - Security Settings won't open](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/component-security-security-settings-wont-open/63692)

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**Author:** [@Matt\_Risser](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Matt_Risser)\
**Replies:** 14\
**Last updated:** [August 10, 2026, 6:11pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/component-security-security-settings-wont-open/63692 "2026-08-10T18:11:29Z")

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Ignition 8.1.20 Windows 10 Enterprise When I right click on a component, click Security, I don't get the 'Security Settings' window that I see in the Ignition 8.1 User manual located \[here\] (Component and Window S…

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## [Tooltip when hovering over submit button on Perspective Form](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/tooltip-when-hovering-over-submit-button-on-perspective-form/116735)

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**Author:** [@spullen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/spullen)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [August 10, 2026, 4:16pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/tooltip-when-hovering-over-submit-button-on-perspective-form/116735 "2026-08-10T16:16:18Z")

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I have a basic form in perspective with required fields and am looking for a way to display a popup when hovering over the submit button that details which fields are invalid/ why the form cannot be submitted yet. So far…

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## [Binary Message Too Large in Ignition Designer](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/binary-message-too-large-in-ignition-designer/112106)

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**Author:** [@henderson.g](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/henderson.g)\
**Replies:** 19\
**Last updated:** [August 10, 2026, 3:55pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/binary-message-too-large-in-ignition-designer/112106 "2026-08-10T15:55:42Z")

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Hey everyone, Our team recently upgraded to Ignition 8.3.1. Overall, our upgrade process was pretty smooth. This is our “main” Ignition gateway, and we have almost 10 other Ignition gateways that are incoming connection…

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## [Engineering Limit Enforcement lost on tag import](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/engineering-limit-enforcement-lost-on-tag-import/7795)

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**Author:** [@JGJohnson](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/JGJohnson)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [August 10, 2026, 11:29am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/engineering-limit-enforcement-lost-on-tag-import/7795 "2026-08-10T11:29:25Z")

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When working with UDTs if I export a UDT to csv format and then import that same file the engineering limits are retained but the engineering limit enforcement reverts to "None" for all items. It would be nice if that …

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## [Remote Tag Provider subscriptions created by Tag References when source tag value never changes](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/remote-tag-provider-subscriptions-created-by-tag-references-when-source-tag-value-never-changes/116645)

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**Author:** [@thidalgo](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/thidalgo)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [August 10, 2026, 11:17am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/remote-tag-provider-subscriptions-created-by-tag-references-when-source-tag-value-never-changes/116645 "2026-08-10T11:17:47Z")

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Hi all, I'm trying to better understand how subscriptions work between gateways when using a Remote Tag Provider in Ignition 8.1. Let's assume the following architecture: Gateway A exposes tags through a Remote Tag P…

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## [How to refresh or reload updated view.json changes in an Ignition project without restarting the Gateway?](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/how-to-refresh-or-reload-updated-view-json-changes-in-an-ignition-project-without-restarting-the-gateway/116538)

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**Author:** [@Prasanna](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Prasanna)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [August 10, 2026, 10:00am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/how-to-refresh-or-reload-updated-view-json-changes-in-an-ignition-project-without-restarting-the-gateway/116538 "2026-08-10T10:00:02Z")

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Hi Community, I am currently developing an AI chatbot within an Ignition project. The chatbot is able to read project view information from a view.json file stored on the local C drive and provide responses based on tha…

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## [Perspective 8.3 Recipe queuing](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-8-3-recipe-queuing/116726)

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**Author:** [@Arr](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Arr)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [August 10, 2026, 9:23am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-8-3-recipe-queuing/116726 "2026-08-10T09:23:37Z")

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Hi, In my SCADA system I have got a recipe with about 40 parameters. There is a functionality expected that operator can make a Recipe Queue. I thought of something like a table with 10 rows where user chooses in each r…

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## [Technical Analysis of TimescaleDB Historian Throughput Bottleneck and Store-and-Forward Risk](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/technical-analysis-of-timescaledb-historian-throughput-bottleneck-and-store-and-forward-risk/116722)

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**Author:** [@narimannejadm](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/narimannejadm)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [August 10, 2026, 7:03am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/technical-analysis-of-timescaledb-historian-throughput-bottleneck-and-store-and-forward-risk/116722 "2026-08-10T07:03:51Z")

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Problem Statement: Our current architecture involves 16,000 tags configured with “On Change” history logging. We are utilizing PostgreSQL with the TimescaleDB extension to optimize ingestion rates and minimize memory ov…

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## [Script Datasource - Reading Tag Historian Query results in Reporting Module 6.1.25](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/script-datasource-reading-tag-historian-query-results-in-reporting-module-6-1-25/116242)

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**Author:** [@ashraf.zainal](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/ashraf.zainal)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [August 10, 2026, 6:49am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/script-datasource-reading-tag-historian-query-results-in-reporting-module-6-1-25/116242 "2026-08-10T06:49:02Z")

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Ignition: 8.1.25 Reporting Module: 6.1.25 Historian: IgnitionDB01 (MSSQL) Setup: Tag Historian Query data key named ITLoad\_Start Tag paths added by dragging from IgnitionDB01 historian browser Script datasource name…

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## [Powerchart search functionality in the tag browser](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/powerchart-search-functionality-in-the-tag-browser/116693)

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**Author:** [@jayachandran.m](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jayachandran.m)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [August 10, 2026, 6:25am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/powerchart-search-functionality-in-the-tag-browser/116693 "2026-08-10T06:25:13Z")

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Hi, The default powerchart tag browser of perspective lacks the search functionality, is there any workaround to add search function. Thanks Jayachandran M

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## [Alarm status not refreshing live over a proxied (2-hop) Remote Tag Provider Perspective 8.3](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/alarm-status-not-refreshing-live-over-a-proxied-2-hop-remote-tag-provider-perspective-8-3/116619)

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**Author:** [@Anna\_Goldberg](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Anna_Goldberg)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [August 10, 2026, 5:53am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/alarm-status-not-refreshing-live-over-a-proxied-2-hop-remote-tag-provider-perspective-8-3/116619 "2026-08-10T05:53:41Z")

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Hey all, running into an issue on 8.3.x and hoping someone's seen this before. Setup: 3 gateways — a remote site gateway with the actual alarms, a central "backend" gateway with a direct Gateway Network connection to th…

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## [SSO for Windows Perpective Workstation(Single-Sign-On)](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/sso-for-windows-perpective-workstation-single-sign-on/59491)

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**Author:** [@tadeja.saje](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/tadeja.saje)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [August 9, 2026, 12:34pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/sso-for-windows-perpective-workstation-single-sign-on/59491 "2026-08-09T12:34:57Z")

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Hello, we have computers that are joined in domain. In our windows 10 computers also runs different aplications that are logged with SSO.(ignition perspective 8.1.7) In gateway is set option: -SSO Enabled -Designer A…

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## [Re login & break in trend after redundancy failover](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/re-login-break-in-trend-after-redundancy-failover/116718)

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**Author:** [@Mohammed\_Afthab](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Mohammed_Afthab)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [August 9, 2026, 9:41am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/re-login-break-in-trend-after-redundancy-failover/116718 "2026-08-09T09:41:08Z")

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We need to re login each time when ignition failover to its redundant pair any option to avoid that. Also we have a break in the trends, though the poll rate is higher than the failover time.

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## [Twilio Alternative For SMS Messaging Alarm Notifications](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/twilio-alternative-for-sms-messaging-alarm-notifications/111354)

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**Author:** [@dpetermann](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dpetermann)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [August 9, 2026, 9:23am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/twilio-alternative-for-sms-messaging-alarm-notifications/111354 "2026-08-09T09:23:06Z")

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We built the controls and SCADA system for one of our customer’s new manufacturing plant. Part of it involves Ignition and one of its uses is for remote alarm notifications since they wanted email and SMS notifications f…

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## [\[Bug\] Powerchart properties misbehave and are hidden from the editor](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-powerchart-properties-misbehave-and-are-hidden-from-the-editor/116709)

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**Author:** [@mmyzer](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/mmyzer)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [August 9, 2026, 12:51am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-powerchart-properties-misbehave-and-are-hidden-from-the-editor/116709 "2026-08-09T00:51:06Z")

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Powerchart properties specific to modes (xTrace, panAndZoom, etc) are hidden from the props/interaction/ menu if their mode is not the selected one. However, they ARE still attached, and sometimes applied, to the chart. …

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## [Selecting Security Level in API Key not working 8.3.8](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/selecting-security-level-in-api-key-not-working-8-3-8/116689)

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**Author:** [@SWoollett](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/SWoollett)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [August 8, 2026, 11:02pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/selecting-security-level-in-api-key-not-working-8-3-8/116689 "2026-08-08T23:02:20Z")

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Hi all, I have been setting up a read-only API on all of our gateways (8.3.7) to collect status data from ignition. To do this I have been creating a security level 'API RO' at the root level, adding this to Gateway 'A…

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## [8.3.6 Allen-Bradley Micrologix Disconnected: Browse Pending](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/8-3-6-allen-bradley-micrologix-disconnected-browse-pending/116714)

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**Author:** [@OkiePC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/OkiePC)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [August 8, 2026, 6:18pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/8-3-6-allen-bradley-micrologix-disconnected-browse-pending/116714 "2026-08-08T18:18:06Z")

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A customer at a water plant with a large campus of multiple Micrologix PLCs suffered a power disturbance, and afterward, only two of the PLCs reconnected to the Ignition gateway. Those that reconnected are connected to …

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## [Ghost Reporting Module Reports](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ghost-reporting-module-reports/113836)

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**Author:** [@thad.scheider](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/thad.scheider)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [August 8, 2026, 12:43pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ghost-reporting-module-reports/113836 "2026-08-08T12:43:59Z")

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Ignition 8.1. Currently have three reports that email daily. Up until recently everything has been fine. Now when the reports go out, there will be three additional reports that send three hours later and are blank. They…

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## [Rotating Entire window in Vision](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/rotating-entire-window-in-vision/116687)

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**Author:** [@grant.zimlich](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/grant.zimlich)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [August 8, 2026, 2:25am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/rotating-entire-window-in-vision/116687 "2026-08-08T02:25:10Z")

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I’m working on a larger Ignition Vision project where each PLC screen needs to be viewable in four orientations: 0°, 90°, 180°, and 270°. The screens contain a mix of: Vision template instances conveyor graphics built…

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## [Ignition 8.3 OpenAPI - Functionality Similar to Tag Browser Export for Tag and UDT JSON](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-3-openapi-functionality-similar-to-tag-browser-export-for-tag-and-udt-json/113192)

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**Author:** [@mkowalk](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/mkowalk)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [August 8, 2026, 1:06am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-3-openapi-functionality-similar-to-tag-browser-export-for-tag-and-udt-json/113192 "2026-08-08T01:06:36Z")

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Hello, I have been testing out the API in 8.3 to import/export projects and pull backups—it has been working great! However, while browsing through the available REST operations, I was unable to find a way to target a …

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## [Cognex DataMan DM8700 Scanner with Ignition TCP Driver - Connected but No Scan Data Received](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cognex-dataman-dm8700-scanner-with-ignition-tcp-driver-connected-but-no-scan-data-received/116688)

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**Author:** [@lokesh.pareddy](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/lokesh.pareddy)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [August 7, 2026, 10:35pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cognex-dataman-dm8700-scanner-with-ignition-tcp-driver-connected-but-no-scan-data-received/116688 "2026-08-07T22:35:07Z")

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Hi everyone, I'm working on a new Finished Goods scanning project and trying to integrate a Cognex DataMan DM8700LX-WF scanner with Ignition 8.1. Current setup: Scanner IP: 10.1.9.36 Scanner connected to WiFi net…

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## [Expression binding in template](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/expression-binding-in-template/116705)

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**Author:** [@oscar.villarreal](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/oscar.villarreal)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [August 7, 2026, 8:51pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/expression-binding-in-template/116705 "2026-08-07T20:51:15Z")

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Hello, I am creating a template and trying to bind a template parameter and keep getting this error. I am new to scripting and would appreciate assistance.

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## [Flex repeater not updating on instance change](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/flex-repeater-not-updating-on-instance-change/114774)

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**Author:** [@travisaggiebrown](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/travisaggiebrown)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [August 7, 2026, 7:06pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/flex-repeater-not-updating-on-instance-change/114774 "2026-08-07T19:06:15Z")

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I have a script that updates a database, and a Flex Repeater is used to display all instances of that database. The issue is that after the database updates, the repeater instances correctly contain the new data, but vis…

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