# Ignition

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## [Suggestions for 8.1.9 to 8.1.53 upgrade](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/suggestions-for-8-1-9-to-8-1-53-upgrade/114914)

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**Author:** [@pgmo](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pgmo)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [April 8, 2026, 4:38pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/suggestions-for-8-1-9-to-8-1-53-upgrade/114914 "2026-04-08T16:38:54Z")

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Hi all, one of my customers asked me to upgrade its 8.1.9/10 Ignition installations to the latest 8.1.x (8.1.53 as of writing). I’m worried about next topics: that customer has 2 plants, each with its own Ignition (1…

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## [Tags from local KEPSERVEREX normally "Good" quality turns into "Bad\_Failure"](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/tags-from-local-kepserverex-normally-good-quality-turns-into-bad-failure/114954)

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**Author:** [@jmonteroh](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jmonteroh)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [April 8, 2026, 2:44pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/tags-from-local-kepserverex-normally-good-quality-turns-into-bad-failure/114954 "2026-04-08T14:44:20Z")

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Hi all, We have an Ignition (8.1.29 (b2023070609) acting as a Historian connected locally (same server) as a client to KEPSERVEREX via OPC-UA channel. KEPSERVEREX is acting as a data hub, connecting to several devices …

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## [Replace Edge Device](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/replace-edge-device/114865)

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**Author:** [@tebright1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/tebright1)\
**Replies:** 18\
**Last updated:** [April 8, 2026, 2:07pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/replace-edge-device/114865 "2026-04-08T14:07:37Z")

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We had an Edge device go down. I restored a backup and matched everything to the old system (Gateway Name, etc). What is the best practice to add the replacement to the system? We have historical data that needs to be m…

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## [Bug? Unexpected Protobuf serialization error](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-unexpected-protobuf-serialization-error/114652)

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**Author:** [@witman](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/witman)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [March 24, 2026, 9:23pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-unexpected-protobuf-serialization-error/114652 "2026-03-24T21:23:19Z")

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We’ve run into an interesting issue with the change to Protobuf serialization for the gateway network in Ignition 8.3.4. This error prevents a value ranging from -1 to 3 read from a component custom property from being w…

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## [Time library of type str](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/time-library-of-type-str/114922)

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**Author:** [@kevinmarchand](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/kevinmarchand)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [April 8, 2026, 1:00pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/time-library-of-type-str/114922 "2026-04-08T13:00:47Z")

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In the script console this script return this result. Why the time library is of type str? import time print dir(time) print type(time) \['add', 'class', 'cmp', 'contains', 'delattr', 'doc', 'ensure\_finalizer', 'eq', 'f…

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## [Perspective Project Pages Not Appearing After Upgrading Ignition and Restoring 8.1.44 Backup](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-project-pages-not-appearing-after-upgrading-ignition-and-restoring-8-1-44-backup/114948)

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**Author:** [@mohammad.siami1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/mohammad.siami1)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [April 8, 2026, 12:02pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/perspective-project-pages-not-appearing-after-upgrading-ignition-and-restoring-8-1-44-backup/114948 "2026-04-08T12:02:32Z")

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Hello, I recently updated my Ignition installer from 8.1.44 STABLE to 8.1.55 STABLE. After the update, I restored a gateway backup that was created from the 8.1.44 version. When I open the Designer Launcher and load my…

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## [MQTT Engine and MQTT Transmitter Data Mismatch](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/mqtt-engine-and-mqtt-transmitter-data-mismatch/114945)

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**Author:** [@xinru.tey](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/xinru.tey)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [April 8, 2026, 10:07am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/mqtt-engine-and-mqtt-transmitter-data-mismatch/114945 "2026-04-08T10:07:56Z")

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We are using MQTT Distributor/Engine/Transmitter version 4.0.34 Ignition Version 8.1.48 Does anyone face the same issue here?

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## [Issue to create Identity Provider and User Grants](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/issue-to-create-identity-provider-and-user-grants/114944)

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**Author:** [@chilmesantosh](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/chilmesantosh)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [April 8, 2026, 9:34am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/issue-to-create-identity-provider-and-user-grants/114944 "2026-04-08T09:34:52Z")

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In Ignition Designer, we are unable to create an Identity Provider (IdP) and user grants using the Web Dev module. While we can create and modify the user source through the Web Dev module, we are not able to create IdPs…

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## [Color picker component in Perspective](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/color-picker-component-in-perspective/37864)

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**Author:** [@yash.bhan](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/yash.bhan)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [April 8, 2026, 7:04am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/color-picker-component-in-perspective/37864 "2026-04-08T07:04:51Z")

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Hi Just wanted to know if there is a color picker/selector component in the Perspective module.

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## [Leer datos desde una hmi / Reading date from an HMI](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/leer-datos-desde-una-hmi-reading-date-from-an-hmi/114938)

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**Author:** [@Alejandro\_Padilla](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Alejandro_Padilla)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [April 8, 2026, 4:38am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/leer-datos-desde-una-hmi-reading-date-from-an-hmi/114938 "2026-04-08T04:38:33Z")

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Hello, my name is Alejandro, and I need help with a Kinco MT4434TE screen and a Xinje TG765-MT-ET screen, both with Ethernet (Modbus TCP) connections. I'll try to be brief. The HMIs are working and connected to slave dev…

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## [Form component crashes when dynamically duplicating rows (8.3.2)](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/form-component-crashes-when-dynamically-duplicating-rows-8-3-2/114586)

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**Author:** [@Paul.M](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Paul.M)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [April 7, 2026, 9:43pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/form-component-crashes-when-dynamically-duplicating-rows-8-3-2/114586 "2026-04-07T21:43:03Z")

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Hello, I am working with the Form component in Ignition 8.3.2 and I am trying to allow the user to dynamically add rows (a list of actions). Currently, I am using the following script triggered by a button: l…

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## [Ignition Gateway is not available remotely](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-gateway-is-not-available-remotely/114933)

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**Author:** [@strickb](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/strickb)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [April 7, 2026, 8:24pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-gateway-is-not-available-remotely/114933 "2026-04-07T20:24:34Z")

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I have Ignition 8.1 running on Windows Server 2022. The gateway is available using localhost:8088 but if I use the server’s ip address and :8088 from my laptop it does not see it. I can ping the servers ip address. Is th…

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## [Way to make a checkbox uneditable, but no grayed out?](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/way-to-make-a-checkbox-uneditable-but-no-grayed-out/26617)

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**Author:** [@bkarabinchak.psi](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/bkarabinchak.psi)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [April 7, 2026, 8:11pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/way-to-make-a-checkbox-uneditable-but-no-grayed-out/26617 "2026-04-07T20:11:41Z")

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I'm using check boxes to display some data. The checkboxes only show what is retrieved by the database, they should not be editable. However, it seems like the only way to make them uneditable is to make them disabled,…

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## [SMS notification - Bypass 160 character limit?](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/sms-notification-bypass-160-character-limit/47236)

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**Author:** [@Cory.grube](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Cory.grube)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [April 7, 2026, 6:43pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/sms-notification-bypass-160-character-limit/47236 "2026-04-07T18:43:07Z")

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\[Ignition 8.1.5\] I’m using an Airlink RV50x for SMS alarm notification. Looks like my messages get automatically split to stay under the 160 character limit of SMS. I know longer messages are possible, and a quick searc…

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## [Is there a way to keep the selected row in agreement with the property selectedRow?](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/is-there-a-way-to-keep-the-selected-row-in-agreement-with-the-property-selectedrow/114919)

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**Author:** [@bmeyers](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/bmeyers)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [April 7, 2026, 6:33pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/is-there-a-way-to-keep-the-selected-row-in-agreement-with-the-property-selectedrow/114919 "2026-04-07T18:33:20Z")

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I am running Ignition 8.1.42. I have a view with a Perspective table component tbl\_Data. Various buttons in this view update a database table and then I call a script get\_data() to retrieve the database data and write t…

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## [Core Historian history binding intermittently returns incorrect leading & trailing zero values](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/core-historian-history-binding-intermittently-returns-incorrect-leading-trailing-zero-values/114648)

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**Author:** [@witman](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/witman)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [April 7, 2026, 4:39pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/core-historian-history-binding-intermittently-returns-incorrect-leading-trailing-zero-values/114648 "2026-04-07T16:39:49Z")

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We recently migrated one location from the Internal Historian to the new Core Historian available in 8.3 as we were bumping up against performance limits on the Internal Historian. We immediately noticed an issue on Pers…

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## [Equipment scheduler event doesn't overlap](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/equipment-scheduler-event-doesnt-overlap/114895)

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**Author:** [@Rahul\_Bhakte1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Rahul_Bhakte1)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [April 7, 2026, 12:01pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/equipment-scheduler-event-doesnt-overlap/114895 "2026-04-07T12:01:01Z")

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Hello, When I try to drag an event and drop over another event, they don’t overlap. Also when I try to print the event.start and event.end dates on console, it prints nothing. But when I drag an event and drop somewher…

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## [Reporting Module, Target printer](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/reporting-module-target-printer/114912)

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**Author:** [@SWoollett](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/SWoollett)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [April 7, 2026, 7:44am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/reporting-module-target-printer/114912 "2026-04-07T07:44:45Z")

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Hello, From the reporting module, is it possible to define different printers for different reports or is the Default printer the only option?

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## [Reviewing Ignition Resources Security](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/reviewing-ignition-resources-security/114771)

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**Author:** [@Eugene49](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Eugene49)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [April 7, 2026, 7:37am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/reviewing-ignition-resources-security/114771 "2026-04-07T07:37:30Z")

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Can you authorized which user can access Project A vs Project B Designer?

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## [PLC connected via Moxa NAT causing OPC issues](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/plc-connected-via-moxa-nat-causing-opc-issues/114904)

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**Author:** [@bghunt](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/bghunt)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [April 7, 2026, 7:14am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/plc-connected-via-moxa-nat-causing-opc-issues/114904 "2026-04-07T07:14:11Z")

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We are trying to connect to a micrologix 1500 via a Moxa NAT. We have 4 machines that all use the same hardcoded IP from the manufacturer, we use a Moxa NAT to translate to our own desired IP address. I know that the 1…

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## [Timeseries Chart using nested query](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/timeseries-chart-using-nested-query/89096)

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**Author:** [@Alagumani\_Kaliyaperu](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Alagumani_Kaliyaperu)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [April 6, 2026, 10:24pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/timeseries-chart-using-nested-query/89096 "2026-04-06T22:24:01Z")

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Hi, I'm creating dynamic report using the nested query, In my parent query I collect the station information from Database then in child, I'm using the Tag Historian Query to pull my data for Timeseries chart. But I'm no…

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## [\[FEATURE?\] Non-recursive system.tag.query?](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/feature-non-recursive-system-tag-query/114875)

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**Author:** [@nminchin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nminchin)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [April 6, 2026, 10:08pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/feature-non-recursive-system-tag-query/114875 "2026-04-06T22:08:33Z")

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I’m trying to work out how to get similar function to system.tag.browse('SOLAR', filter={'recursive': False}) using system.tag.query, but I’m starting to think it’s not possible… I just want to return the tags from a fo…

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## [Do I need to restart the gateway after setting an ENV variable on the OS?](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/do-i-need-to-restart-the-gateway-after-setting-an-env-variable-on-the-os/114905)

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**Author:** [@kbranson](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/kbranson)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [April 6, 2026, 10:05pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/do-i-need-to-restart-the-gateway-after-setting-an-env-variable-on-the-os/114905 "2026-04-06T22:05:53Z")

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If I set an ENV variable on Windows do I need to restart my gateway to import that variable via: import os api\_key = os.environ\['api\_key'\]

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## [SMS Alarm Pipeline](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/sms-alarm-pipeline/114910)

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**Author:** [@Andres\_Gallardo](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Andres_Gallardo)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [April 6, 2026, 10:05pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/sms-alarm-pipeline/114910 "2026-04-06T22:05:49Z")

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Hi, I have successfully configured SMS notifications through an AirLink module, and the messages are being received correctly. The issues I am seeing now are the following: Some alarm notifications are being split in…

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## [Relative Referencing between Child Tags of UDT](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/relative-referencing-between-child-tags-of-udt/114902)

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**Author:** [@jack.williams](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jack.williams)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [April 6, 2026, 9:57pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/relative-referencing-between-child-tags-of-udt/114902 "2026-04-06T21:57:01Z")

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I’m attempting to configure a tag property using relative referencing. I’m testing a design method for UDTs where I would dynamically configure a property of one child tag in my UDT with the value of another child tag by…

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## [Click through a popup window](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/click-through-a-popup-window/114886)

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**Author:** [@sprestwood](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/sprestwood)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [April 6, 2026, 9:51pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/click-through-a-popup-window/114886 "2026-04-06T21:51:43Z")

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Using Ignition 8.3 with a popup screen, any touch or click goes through the screen and will engage a button or whatever on the screen directly below it. Can this be stopped?

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## [OPC Server Connection Dynamic with Reference Tag](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/opc-server-connection-dynamic-with-reference-tag/114908)

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**Author:** [@jayesh](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jayesh)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [April 6, 2026, 8:00pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/opc-server-connection-dynamic-with-reference-tag/114908 "2026-04-06T20:00:40Z")

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We have the Control Architecture with the two OPC server. We would like to switch between the OPC Server based on condition. The objective is to move the all tag from OPC server A to OPC server B by automated script base…

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## [Update the sum of pieces on table filter](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/update-the-sum-of-pieces-on-table-filter/114880)

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**Author:** [@Anita.Shinde](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Anita.Shinde)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [April 6, 2026, 6:49pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/update-the-sum-of-pieces-on-table-filter/114880 "2026-04-06T18:49:10Z")

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I’m working with a Table componant that includes a Pieces column, and I want to display the total sum of that column at the top of the table. Right now, I’m using a table filter‑change script to calculate the sum, but t…

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## [Alarm Metrics in Remote Tag Provider](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/alarm-metrics-in-remote-tag-provider/112976)

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**Author:** [@Justin\_Szatkowski](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Justin_Szatkowski)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [April 6, 2026, 6:34pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/alarm-metrics-in-remote-tag-provider/112976 "2026-04-06T18:34:58Z")

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Hello, I have 2 gateways (backend, frontend) and I am using the GAN to send a tag provider (remote) from backend to frontend. The alarm metrics metadata appears on the backend, however, on the frontend, I can see tags o…

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## [\[IGN-15889\]Error in Vision client when receiving a message](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ign-15889-error-in-vision-client-when-receiving-a-message/114901)

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**Author:** [@martinmoncada.tree](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/martinmoncada.tree)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [April 6, 2026, 6:06pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ign-15889-error-in-vision-client-when-receiving-a-message/114901 "2026-04-06T18:06:35Z")

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I’m working with ignition 8.3.4. When receiving a message in a vision client, I get the following error in the client console: Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "com.in…

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