# 61850 Module Tag Diagnostics do not Update

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/61850-module-tag-diagnostics-do-not-update/78528>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Tags:** ignition81\
**Created:** [August 29, 2023, 5:57pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/61850-module-tag-diagnostics-do-not-update/78528 "2023-08-29T17:57:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mike\_Le](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Mike\_Le](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Mike_Le)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 5:57pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/61850-module-tag-diagnostics-do-not-update/78528/1 "2023-08-29T17:57:40Z")

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I've been trying to obtain device diagnostic data from using Ignition's native 61850 driver. The tags exist in the OPC UA Server but do not change values when values are changed on the SCD side.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/1/9/19964ab7aca395f531e4f4a2d7416605bab571b9.png)

I am looking for the changes in the Read counters.

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**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 6:04pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/61850-module-tag-diagnostics-do-not-update/78528/2 "2023-08-29T18:04:19Z")

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Are you subscribed to any tags? Which ones?

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Le](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Mike\_Le](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Mike_Le)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/61850-module-tag-diagnostics-do-not-update/78528/3 "2023-08-29T18:17:10Z")

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I have various tags subscribed, here are some examples:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/3/3/3351bd7abe67e3e248edf9ea7ce2eea1a24038c6.png)  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/f/a/fae7740a7971631ab90690a4e863cef9f32263a2.png)

{digitalBasePath} = [DCUA1]DCUA1SSSA\_52F01\_FPRCTRL/LLN0.brcb\_ST\_AA1$DCUA1SSSA\_52F01\_FPRCTRL

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/8/7/87d1094465035112577c723f532e8760b2c4f657.png)

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**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 6:23pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/61850-module-tag-diagnostics-do-not-update/78528/4 "2023-08-29T18:23:57Z")

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Are these from the Reports folder or the Model folder?

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Le](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Mike\_Le](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Mike_Le)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 6:33pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/61850-module-tag-diagnostics-do-not-update/78528/5 "2023-08-29T18:33:47Z")

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Reports

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**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 6:40pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/61850-module-tag-diagnostics-do-not-update/78528/6 "2023-08-29T18:40:58Z")

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Okay, well then it's all working as intended.

Those counters are tracking logical Read and Write requests issued by the driver.

Buffered and unbuffered reports are delivered without the driver issuing an explicit read request.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Le](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Mike\_Le](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Mike_Le)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 7:00pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/61850-module-tag-diagnostics-do-not-update/78528/7 "2023-08-29T19:00:36Z")

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Understood, I just created a Model tag and counters are now incrementing. Thanks for the help!

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**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 7:16pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/61850-module-tag-diagnostics-do-not-update/78528/8 "2023-08-29T19:16:04Z")

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Don't use model tags instead of report tags just so you can see counters incrementing. 61850 is optimized for reporting. Polled reads are only meant to be done on occasion.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Le](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Mike\_Le](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Mike_Le)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 7:20pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/61850-module-tag-diagnostics-do-not-update/78528/9 "2023-08-29T19:20:59Z")

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Is there any way to have received confirmations on the report tags? I'm looking at performing a 61850 stress test, and I'm trying to find relevant data points from the device.
