# Access UDT Parameters in Tag Provider folder structure

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**Created:** [May 4, 2024, 3:29am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/access-udt-parameters-in-tag-provider-folder-structure/89916 "2024-05-04T03:29:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Steven\_Jackson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/41988e/32.png) [@Steven\_Jackson](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Steven_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2024, 3:29am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/access-udt-parameters-in-tag-provider-folder-structure/89916/1 "2024-05-04T03:29:40Z")

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Hi All,  
I have a UDT in a folder which is part of a tag folder structure.  
For Example. the Tag Provider is "Factory Name",  
Then I have sub folders Department/ProductionLine/Area.  
The UDT is located in the "Area" folder.  
I have a memory tag inside my UDT which I want to access the Tooltip associated with the UDT name.

If the UDT resides in the root Tag Provider folder "Factory Name" and I set the memory tag Value Source to Reference, Data Type String, then {InstanceName}.Tooltip it works fine.  
As soon as I move the UDT into one of the sub folders it doesn't work anymore.

I found a work around by creating a parameter for the UDT called TagPath and copy paste the path into the parameter. Then {TagPath}.Tooltip works fine.

Is there a way of making this work without adding a parameter to the UDT ?

Cheers!!

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**Author:** ![MMaynard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/mmaynard/32/3366_2.png) [@MMaynard](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/MMaynard)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2024, 1:40pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/access-udt-parameters-in-tag-provider-folder-structure/89916/2 "2024-05-04T13:40:22Z")

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`{PathToTag}`  
Should get you what you want.  
All the builtin paramaters are here

> **[UDT Parameters | Ignition User Manual](https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/docs/8.1/platform/tags/user-defined-types-udts/udt-parameters)**
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> Parameters effectively act as variables that can be referenced by properties on members. A common use case for a parameters in UDTs is to make the OPC Item Path on OPC Tag members dynamic, allowing you to replace parts of the OPC Item Path with the...

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**Author:** ![Steven\_Jackson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/41988e/32.png) [@Steven\_Jackson](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Steven_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 9:37am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/access-udt-parameters-in-tag-provider-folder-structure/89916/3 "2024-05-17T09:37:17Z")

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The one thing I didn't try, pretty obvious really !!  
Thanks !