# AD/Database Hybrid not editable

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ad-database-hybrid-not-editable/77971>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Tags:** vision, database\
**Created:** [August 17, 2023, 3:02am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ad-database-hybrid-not-editable/77971 "2023-08-17T03:02:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![n099y](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/258eb7/32.png) [@n099y](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/n099y)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2023, 3:02am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ad-database-hybrid-not-editable/77971/1 "2023-08-17T03:02:17Z")

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Is there any way to make the roles and who is assigned to roles editable from the gateway webpage and vision user management components?

I can do this with the internal database and active directory fine. But when I moved to database type the only way I can edit the roles etc are manually and not through ignition.

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**Author:** ![Transistor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/transistor/32/3380_2.png) [@Transistor](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Transistor)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2023, 7:36am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ad-database-hybrid-not-editable/77971/2 "2023-08-17T07:36:31Z")

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**Author:** ![n099y](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/258eb7/32.png) [@n099y](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/n099y)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2023, 9:31pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ad-database-hybrid-not-editable/77971/3 "2023-08-17T21:31:06Z")

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Sorry I am using vision I should have said.. edited

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**Author:** ![Transistor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/transistor/32/3380_2.png) [@Transistor](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Transistor)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2023, 9:36pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ad-database-hybrid-not-editable/77971/4 "2023-08-17T21:36:23Z")

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OK. Add in the Vision tag in your post title so that you attract the right audience. It should be capitalised in the post. (It's a proper noun.)

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**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2023, 12:22am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ad-database-hybrid-not-editable/77971/5 "2023-08-18T00:22:18Z")

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No, the point of the database user source is for you to create your own management tools with SQL, or rely on an external system.

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**Author:** ![n099y](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/258eb7/32.png) [@n099y](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/n099y)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2023, 3:01am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ad-database-hybrid-not-editable/77971/6 "2023-08-18T03:01:58Z")

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Ok thank you pturmel, I thought it might be the case.