# Alarm Journal not working as expected **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Tags:** ignition81, vision\ **Created:** [March 11, 2025, 5:49pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/alarm-journal-not-working-as-expected/103529 "2025-03-11T17:49:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ttoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e274bd/32.png) [@ttoth](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/ttoth)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 5:49pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/alarm-journal-not-working-as-expected/103529/1 "2025-03-11T17:49:38Z")
I have an alarm status table and an alarm journal. The alarm status is current alarms, and the alarm journal is a history linked to a database. I have two different setups and on the first one the alarm history will randomly jump around and put older alarms at the top of the list. It looks like a glitch and corrects itself immediately but keeps doing it. I have tried to replicate this on the second setup and can't. I restored the database for the alarm journal and it didn't happen for a bit, but then started again. I thought it had something to do with the size of the database, so I tried to replicate on the second setup and used more than twice the alarms but still did not see this. Has anyone seen this before? Thanks in advance! ---
**Author:** ![Benjamin\_Furlani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/benjamin_furlani/32/66084_2.png) [@Benjamin\_Furlani](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Benjamin_Furlani)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 6:26pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/alarm-journal-not-working-as-expected/103529/2 "2025-03-11T18:26:02Z")
What version of Ignition are you using? Is the journal table set to historical in the `dateRange` property? If so, what is the `startDate` and `endDate` set to? Are there bindings set on these? ---
**Author:** ![ttoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e274bd/32.png) [@ttoth](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/ttoth)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 6:30pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/alarm-journal-not-working-as-expected/103529/3 "2025-03-11T18:30:31Z")
Using 8.1.27 I don't see a dateRange property in the vision property editor startDate and endDate do have bindings but they are accurate and showing alarms within that range ---
**Author:** ![Benjamin\_Furlani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/benjamin_furlani/32/66084_2.png) [@Benjamin\_Furlani](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Benjamin_Furlani)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 6:33pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/alarm-journal-not-working-as-expected/103529/4 "2025-03-11T18:33:25Z")
ah, I should have asked if it was vision or perspective my bad I have added the appropriate tags to your post. ---
**Author:** ![Benjamin\_Furlani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/benjamin_furlani/32/66084_2.png) [@Benjamin\_Furlani](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Benjamin_Furlani)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 6:35pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/alarm-journal-not-working-as-expected/103529/5 "2025-03-11T18:35:06Z")
Instead of the `dateRange` it would be in the `Behavior` section of the vision property editor. ---
**Author:** ![ttoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e274bd/32.png) [@ttoth](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/ttoth)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 11:30am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/alarm-journal-not-working-as-expected/103529/6 "2025-03-12T11:30:08Z")
I don't see any options for 'historical' in the behaviour section: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/9/6/961ca7827a93b32840c5344cdcb7509bae979395.png) ---
**Author:** ![Benjamin\_Furlani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/benjamin_furlani/32/66084_2.png) [@Benjamin\_Furlani](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Benjamin_Furlani)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 1:43pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/alarm-journal-not-working-as-expected/103529/7 "2025-03-12T13:43:59Z")
that is fine. You have bindings on the Start Date and End Date properties. What are those bindings doing? ---
**Author:** ![ttoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e274bd/32.png) [@ttoth](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/ttoth)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 2:49pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/alarm-journal-not-working-as-expected/103529/8 "2025-03-12T14:49:14Z")
They are tied to a scroll bar so you can select date and time to filter the messages shown. They seem to be working properly. They are accurate to the range I select and the alarms shown are within that time frame. ---
**Author:** ![Benjamin\_Furlani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/benjamin_furlani/32/66084_2.png) [@Benjamin\_Furlani](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Benjamin_Furlani)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 4:43pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/alarm-journal-not-working-as-expected/103529/9 "2025-03-12T16:43:30Z")
The reason I ask is because whatever is driving the bindings (a scroll bar in this case which I don't really know what that means) could be causing the jumps in time. If you don't experience this in the second setup I would identify what is exactly different with the bindings and what is driving them.