# Alternative function for system.security.validateUser() in perspective

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/alternative-function-for-system-security-validateuser-in-perspective/30193>\
**Category:** Ignition Early Access\
**Created:** [November 23, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/alternative-function-for-system-security-validateuser-in-perspective/30193 "2019-11-23T15:47:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![nader.chinichian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/nader.chinichian/32/9261_2.png) [@nader.chinichian](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nader.chinichian)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/alternative-function-for-system-security-validateuser-in-perspective/30193/1 "2019-11-23T15:47:28Z")

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Hello

What is the alternative function for system.security.validateUser() in perspective? I need to check current user without login() he/she again by checking his password.

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**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/alternative-function-for-system-security-validateuser-in-perspective/30193/2 "2019-11-23T16:02:50Z")

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I believe this has been answered with “there’s no API for identity providers to do this”.

Consider just logging the user off when a re-validation is required. I would expect a logged-off condition to be the desired outcome if re-validation fails, so that the legitimate user can tell someone attempted to use their credentials.

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**Author:** ![nader.chinichian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/nader.chinichian/32/9261_2.png) [@nader.chinichian](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nader.chinichian)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 4:07pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/alternative-function-for-system-security-validateuser-in-perspective/30193/3 "2019-11-23T16:07:06Z")

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But login again, force perspective to reload all resources again and it’s time consuming and annoying for user. Right now I did as you suggest but client complain for that.  
I wonder if there is any plan to implement this API in future or not.

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**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 6:17pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/alternative-function-for-system-security-validateuser-in-perspective/30193/4 "2019-11-23T18:17:02Z")

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What I meant was, the identity providers IA is supporting have no API for this. IA can’t do this without the identity provider standards changing.