# Any Stability or Issues with New Firmware 8.1.17? I will be upgrading from 7.9.12 to 8.1.17 **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Created:** [June 9, 2022, 11:35pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/any-stability-or-issues-with-new-firmware-8-1-17-i-will-be-upgrading-from-7-9-12-to-8-1-17/60592 "2022-06-09T23:35:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ronne\_Abat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@Ronne\_Abat](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Ronne_Abat)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 11:35pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/any-stability-or-issues-with-new-firmware-8-1-17-i-will-be-upgrading-from-7-9-12-to-8-1-17/60592/1 "2022-06-09T23:35:14Z")
Any Stability or Issues with New Firmware 8.1.17??? I will be upgrading from 7.9.12 to 8.1.17. This application is still on Windows Server 2016. Thinking of Upgrading the Operating System to Window Server 2019. ---
**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 12:54am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/any-stability-or-issues-with-new-firmware-8-1-17-i-will-be-upgrading-from-7-9-12-to-8-1-17/60592/2 "2022-06-10T00:54:13Z")
All kinds of changes, some potentially breaking. Test, test, test on a non-production server first. ---
**Author:** ![nminchin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/nminchin/32/6911_2.png) [@nminchin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nminchin)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 12:13pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/any-stability-or-issues-with-new-firmware-8-1-17-i-will-be-upgrading-from-7-9-12-to-8-1-17/60592/3 "2022-06-10T12:13:58Z")
Check out my post 7.9 to 8 undocumented changes for an idea of some of the things that you will need to fix > [@Undocumented changes when migrating from v7 to v8](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/undocumented-changes-when-migrating-from-v7-to-v8/38044): > > Just some items I’ve found during v7 to v8 upgrades that may not be documented (some of them might be) and can cause hiccups (and quite a bit of work, relatively speaking!). The official guide to upgrading from IA is [here](https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC81/Ignition+8+Upgrade+Guide). Tags: UDT v7 property UDTParentType has been renamed in v8 to TypeId Tag quality string values have changed. E.g. EDITED FOR 8.1.10 below 8.1.10 “Not Found” ==\> “Bad\_NotFound”; “Disabled” ==\> “Bad\_Disabled”; 8.1.10 and above “Bad\_NotFound(Error description…)”, “Bad\_ErrorC… ---
**Author:** ![dkhayes117](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/dkhayes117/32/68344_2.png) [@dkhayes117](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dkhayes117)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 12:22pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/any-stability-or-issues-with-new-firmware-8-1-17-i-will-be-upgrading-from-7-9-12-to-8-1-17/60592/4 "2022-06-10T12:22:27Z")
Windows Server 2019 won’t cause any issues, we run it with no problems. I suggest you setup a test server and convert your projects over one at a time while looking at optimizing your resources for v8.1 inheritance, event driven tags, etc. It took me about 4 months to get our system converted and optimized. There’s a lot to love in v8.1! ---
**Author:** ![Transistor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/transistor/32/3380_2.png) [@Transistor](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Transistor)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 2:36pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/any-stability-or-issues-with-new-firmware-8-1-17-i-will-be-upgrading-from-7-9-12-to-8-1-17/60592/5 "2022-06-10T14:36:17Z")
**firmware** /ˈfəːmwɛː/ _noun_ 1. permanent software programmed into a read-only memory. **software** /ˈsɒf(t)wɛː/ _noun_ 1. the programs and other operating information used by a computer. Ignition is software, not firmware. ---
**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 3:43pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/any-stability-or-issues-with-new-firmware-8-1-17-i-will-be-upgrading-from-7-9-12-to-8-1-17/60592/6 "2022-06-10T15:43:16Z")
[https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC81/7.9+to+8.1+Upgrade+Guide](https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC81/7.9+to+8.1+Upgrade+Guide) ---
**Author:** ![Ronne\_Abat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@Ronne\_Abat](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Ronne_Abat)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 8:57pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/any-stability-or-issues-with-new-firmware-8-1-17-i-will-be-upgrading-from-7-9-12-to-8-1-17/60592/7 "2022-06-10T20:57:46Z")
Thank you for feedback. Doing the test on 2019 now. ---
**Author:** ![Ronne\_Abat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@Ronne\_Abat](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Ronne_Abat)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 9:00pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/any-stability-or-issues-with-new-firmware-8-1-17-i-will-be-upgrading-from-7-9-12-to-8-1-17/60592/8 "2022-06-10T21:00:37Z")
Just read the link. Thank you very much. Very helpful and detailed. If I use the installer it looks like IA did a great job ensuring the upgrade goes smooth. Going to mock up and try out 8.1.17 on Windows Server 2019 since Windows Server 2016 is now obsolete and no longer supported.