# Any way to create programmatically database connection and standard realtime tag providers using Java SDK?

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**Category:** Ignition\
**Tags:** sdk\
**Created:** [November 24, 2023, 9:49am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/any-way-to-create-programmatically-database-connection-and-standard-realtime-tag-providers-using-java-sdk/82325 "2023-11-24T09:49:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![Angelo\_Tebano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bbce88/32.png) [@Angelo\_Tebano](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Angelo_Tebano)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 9:49am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/any-way-to-create-programmatically-database-connection-and-standard-realtime-tag-providers-using-java-sdk/82325/1 "2023-11-24T09:49:36Z")

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Hi, I'm new to Ignition and its module development using Java SDK. I'm looking for a way to create programmatically a database connection identical to the connection entry I can create by GUI under Config -\> Database -\> Connections. There is a way to do this?

I need also to create programmatically a standard realtime tag provider. I'm able to create programmatically only managed tag provider. Any suggest?

Thanks  
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**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 8:36pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/any-way-to-create-programmatically-database-connection-and-standard-realtime-tag-providers-using-java-sdk/82325/2 "2023-11-24T20:36:22Z")

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Not in any supported manner. APIs to manage things like this officially will be available in 8.3.

Until then, you have to muddle through it manually. This forum is your best resource. Terms to start from: PersistentRecord, SimpleORM, PersistenceInterface, RecordListener.