# Anyone have problems with project mutating after save?

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** perspective, ignition81\
**Created:** [February 13, 2024, 4:02pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/anyone-have-problems-with-project-mutating-after-save/85637 "2024-02-13T16:02:56Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 14, 2024, 3:53pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/anyone-have-problems-with-project-mutating-after-save/85637/5 "2024-02-14T15:53:10Z")

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i would not be surprised if that's the issue here. we have a literal dinosaur of a Cisco that desperately needs replacing. this might be the ammo i need to push that over the edge (literally, if they'll let me). thanks for the heads-up on that. that just saved me hours of generalized combing through my running Wireshark capture. you da boss, Phil. 🕶 off i go to dig through hardware specs and do come specific testing to confirm if that's the case here.

EDIT: blow me down, that's the answer right there. our Cisco shuts down web sockets after 30mins of inactivity. 🤨 unless you _turn the firewall **off** _. gotta love it. 🍴 🐐 🤮 time for a new Mikrotik (yaassss....).

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