# At what point does stacking expression binding functions become too much?

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**Tags:** scripting\
**Created:** [April 7, 2021, 9:52pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/at-what-point-does-stacking-expression-binding-functions-become-too-much/45367 "2021-04-07T21:52:34Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 9:12pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/at-what-point-does-stacking-expression-binding-functions-become-too-much/45367/11 "2021-04-08T21:12:49Z")

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> [@tmahaffey](#):
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> What do you mean by staying away from tag()

Some discussions (and rants) are easily found with my ID and "tag()" in a search. You can start with this topic, though:

> [@Expression into Indirect Tag Binding](http://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/expression-into-indirect-tag-binding/42584/7):
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> Ah, but there is. It simply runs slower, because expressions built around it have to completely execute, even if only one little piece changes, and even if a given change wouldn’t yield a change in the output. Totally aside from the (fixed?) bugs in its implementation in v8.0. Gateway expression tags are the only place the tag() expression function makes sense.

> [@paul-griffith](#):
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> Once compiled, Jython or an expression are going to run about the same speed, or at least comparable.

This would shock me. Even compiled, Jython has a lot more "going through one's [expletive] to get to one's elbow" gyrations. Including wrapping and unwrapping java objects / jython objects. Expressions blow jython out of the water. IIRC, @nminchin tested this for us, to that effect.

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