# Both Timer and Trigger in one Standard Group in Transaction Groups

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/both-timer-and-trigger-in-one-standard-group-in-transaction-groups/29757>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Created:** [November 7, 2019, 4:36pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/both-timer-and-trigger-in-one-standard-group-in-transaction-groups/29757 "2019-11-07T16:36:10Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 4:36pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/both-timer-and-trigger-in-one-standard-group-in-transaction-groups/29757/1 "2019-11-07T16:36:10Z")

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Hello All,

I’m trying to take the advantage of Transaction Groups.

I’m trying to use both Timer and Trigger in one standard Group, Is this Possible? If yes how?

I have 5 tags, I want to record it every 5 mins, It’s clear I used Timer in it, I have one tag “shift” in these 5 tags, I want to record all 5 values whenever the shift changes,

Can i use both the Timer and Trigger in one Standard Group ? please help