# \[BUG-11342\] Perspective - Can't draw any shapes **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition Early Access\ **Created:** [November 9, 2018, 12:10am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-11342-perspective-cant-draw-any-shapes/20690 "2018-11-09T00:10:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![oliver.jones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a698b9/32.png) [@oliver.jones](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/oliver.jones)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 4:25am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-11342-perspective-cant-draw-any-shapes/20690/21 "2021-08-11T04:25:10Z")
Yeah, you are right, I was looking at the Icons for which I have to restart the Designer, silly me. The images can be imported as you suggested without restarting. I think I just had messed up the SVG files I was trying to create from scratch and they weren’t working right. Third party app for SVG drawing does produce files that work correctly. Thanks for the feedback and advice. ---
**Author:** ![nminchin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/nminchin/32/6911_2.png) [@nminchin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nminchin)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 4:59am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-11342-perspective-cant-draw-any-shapes/20690/22 "2021-08-11T04:59:03Z")
Not sure if worth mentioning, that if you do use Inkscape, you should save your SVGs as an Optimised SVG and not as an Inkscape SVG. It pulls all the crap out of the file. I use these settings fwiw: Edit: uncheck the top option, don't remove unused ids ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/6/2/62f9c8c71d2b0f7f6395f0a410bae9e19691d984.png) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/9/1/912928ed38a4004a035b6e2689eb778738f85d6d.png) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/d/4/d4868340ea3701ca4666e7cdf669e53d75e491e4.png) Edit: maybe should uncheck the convert css to XML option ---
**Author:** ![Arnaud\_Declerck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/arnaud_declerck/32/44872_2.png) [@Arnaud\_Declerck](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Arnaud_Declerck)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 11:36am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-11342-perspective-cant-draw-any-shapes/20690/23 "2021-08-17T11:36:00Z")
Finally, ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/5/c/5c536bbdb9abda3bf20dc4aaa2812d6bc335847f.png) This is not like in vision but it's a good start ---
**Author:** ![nminchin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/nminchin/32/6911_2.png) [@nminchin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nminchin)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 11:40am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-11342-perspective-cant-draw-any-shapes/20690/24 "2021-08-17T11:40:49Z")
> [@Arnaud\_Declerck](#): > > This is not like in vision Not sure what you mean, Vision doesnt have a piping tool at all? ---
**Author:** ![Arnaud\_Declerck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/arnaud_declerck/32/44872_2.png) [@Arnaud\_Declerck](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Arnaud_Declerck)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 11:44am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-11342-perspective-cant-draw-any-shapes/20690/25 "2021-08-17T11:44:58Z")
yes but piping could be use to simplify line drawing (for the echo that i have. I did not test it). After that i hope they will move forward to draw like in vision. ---
**Author:** ![josh3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/82dd89/32.png) [@josh3](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/josh3)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 6:05am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-11342-perspective-cant-draw-any-shapes/20690/26 "2021-11-01T06:05:49Z")
Hi, Just wondering where I set ''vector-effect: non-scaling-stroke"? Regards, Josh ---
**Author:** ![nminchin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/nminchin/32/6911_2.png) [@nminchin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nminchin)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 6:15am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-11342-perspective-cant-draw-any-shapes/20690/27 "2021-11-01T06:15:14Z")
I'm assuming that you're using it for an SVG that you've imported. In that case, you need to add it to the `style` property in the element that you want it to apply to. I can't remember if it applies to child elements or only to its own element, so you may need to apply it in the base element or each base element Edit for posterity: You can also default _all_ SVG elements to this by putting this in your theme files or the adv stylesheet: ```python svg rect, svg path, svg circle, svg line, svg ellipse, svg polygon, svg polyline, svg text{ vector-effect: non-scaling-stroke; } ``` ---
**Author:** ![josh3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/82dd89/32.png) [@josh3](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/josh3)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2021, 9:21pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-11342-perspective-cant-draw-any-shapes/20690/28 "2021-11-02T21:21:37Z")
thank you! ---
**Author:** ![mjohnson0238](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@mjohnson0238](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/mjohnson0238)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 7:40pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-11342-perspective-cant-draw-any-shapes/20690/29 "2022-02-08T19:40:14Z")
How do you get the piping visualization? ---
**Author:** ![kvane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kvane/32/22228_2.png) [@kvane](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/kvane)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 8:02pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-11342-perspective-cant-draw-any-shapes/20690/30 "2022-02-09T20:02:29Z")
[https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC81/Perspective+Pipes](https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC81/Perspective+Pipes) Ensure you are version 8.1.10 or above and the Piping Visualization Tool will be in the Perspective Tool Bar (see the User Manual for screenshot). ---
**Author:** ![mjohnson0238](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@mjohnson0238](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/mjohnson0238)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 6:14pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-11342-perspective-cant-draw-any-shapes/20690/31 "2022-03-17T18:14:32Z")
We are using 8.1.0 Upgrading to 8.1.10, does that effect anything that we currently have done? ---
**Author:** ![nminchin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/nminchin/32/6911_2.png) [@nminchin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nminchin)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 7:05pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-11342-perspective-cant-draw-any-shapes/20690/32 "2022-03-17T19:05:56Z")
Possibly. As with all upgrades you will need to test your project afterwards. One thing springs to mind and that’s a change to tag qualities. They now contain more descriptive text at the end, so if you are comparing quality strings to values e.g. “Bad\_Disabled” then these expressions will be invalid now and need to be updated ---
**Author:** ![mjohnson0238](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@mjohnson0238](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/mjohnson0238)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 7:16pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-11342-perspective-cant-draw-any-shapes/20690/33 "2022-03-17T19:16:59Z")
10 4 ---
**Author:** ![nminchin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/nminchin/32/6911_2.png) [@nminchin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nminchin)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 9:19pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-11342-perspective-cant-draw-any-shapes/20690/34 "2022-03-17T21:19:32Z")
No, 8.1.15 😆 ---
**Author:** ![mjohnson0238](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@mjohnson0238](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/mjohnson0238)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 1:00pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-11342-perspective-cant-draw-any-shapes/20690/35 "2022-03-24T13:00:59Z")
lol ---
**Author:** ![chaoliang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba8739/32.png) [@chaoliang](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/chaoliang)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 6:47am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-11342-perspective-cant-draw-any-shapes/20690/36 "2022-06-23T06:47:09Z")
Glad to use piping function. Does it take too much resources if I place a hundred piping element in one view? ---
**Author:** ![victordcq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f6c823/32.png) [@victordcq](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/victordcq)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 12:04pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-11342-perspective-cant-draw-any-shapes/20690/37 "2022-06-23T12:04:02Z")
probably yes, better make a single svg out of that then. or even better an img ---
**Author:** ![chaoliang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba8739/32.png) [@chaoliang](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/chaoliang)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 2:46pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-11342-perspective-cant-draw-any-shapes/20690/38 "2022-06-23T14:46:44Z")
Very good advice. Than you. ---
**Author:** ![AngusH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/90ced4/32.png) [@AngusH](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/AngusH)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2023, 11:14pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-11342-perspective-cant-draw-any-shapes/20690/39 "2023-06-24T23:14:37Z")
So... 4 1/2 years later I have the same problem as Nick. Attempting to draw shapes in Perspective just results in a rectangular selection box. Is drawing a line, rectangle or circle supported yet? ---
**Author:** ![brandon1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea666f/32.png) [@brandon1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/brandon1)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 12:48pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-11342-perspective-cant-draw-any-shapes/20690/40 "2023-06-26T12:48:11Z")
Not yet. Any major revelations at this point will be reserved for the ICC in September. Long overdue feature. Optimistic they will knock it out of the park like they did with the overhauled tag search tool (which also took YEARS to be created). [Previous page](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-11342-perspective-cant-draw-any-shapes/20690.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-11342-perspective-cant-draw-any-shapes/20690.md?page=3)