# \[Bug-14362\] Block Transaction Group "Unable to Start" bug

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-14362-block-transaction-group-unable-to-start-bug/26013>\
**Category:** Ignition Early Access\
**Tags:** ignition80\
**Created:** [June 21, 2019, 3:03pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-14362-block-transaction-group-unable-to-start-bug/26013 "2019-06-21T15:03:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![mcarritt1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/mcarritt1/32/4262_2.png) [@mcarritt1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/mcarritt1)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 3:03pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-14362-block-transaction-group-unable-to-start-bug/26013/1 "2019-06-21T15:03:33Z")

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Noticed an issue after upgrading to 8.0 that all of my Block transaction group’s stopped, and gave an “Unable to Start” message. I wasn’t able to find any other messages or information on why.

After a few days of fooling around with it, and some of them starting sometimes for no apparent reason, I found how to fix it:  
For each one of your blocks (block items) in item view, edit the block, then go the 2nd tab ‘Items’.  
Select any of the items in the block. I do the first one but I don’t think it matters.  
Click the TOP (not the bottom window apply) apply button.  
Click ok.

After a kind of re-saving the items in each block, my block transaction groups were able to start again.

Also, note that exporting and re-importing a fully working group did not work. I didnt test this on creating a new group that never existed before, but deleting a non working group, exporting a working group, doing a find and replace on it, and then re-importing it did not give me a new working group. I still needed to perform the steps above to get it to work.

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**Author:** ![mcarritt1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/mcarritt1/32/4262_2.png) [@mcarritt1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/mcarritt1)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 3:08pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-14362-block-transaction-group-unable-to-start-bug/26013/2 "2019-06-21T15:08:26Z")

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this might be clearer:  
[![CloudApp](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/e/9/e98e6a084586b00623cbcf4e7f3341fd7702573c.gif "Screen Recording 2019-06-21 at 05.07.17.97 PM") ](https://cl.ly/mXujQWYl)

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**Author:** ![alexlu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/alexlu/32/65795_2.png) [@alexlu](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/alexlu)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 7:01pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-14362-block-transaction-group-unable-to-start-bug/26013/3 "2019-07-15T19:01:07Z")

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Thanks for the report. The issue has been identified and will be fixed.

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**Author:** ![awalker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/awalker/32/6874_2.png) [@awalker](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/awalker)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 7:26pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-14362-block-transaction-group-unable-to-start-bug/26013/4 "2019-07-22T19:26:10Z")

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This issue was fixed in the 8.0.4 nightly build that was uploaded today (7/22).

You can also expect this issue to be fixed in the 8.0.3 RC that will be released soon.