# \[BUG-3422\] project browser randomly collapses **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Created:** [May 8, 2023, 12:32pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-3422-project-browser-randomly-collapses/73393 "2023-05-08T12:32:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mason\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Mason\_1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Mason_1)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 12:32pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-3422-project-browser-randomly-collapses/73393/1 "2023-05-08T12:32:19Z")
**1. The behavior you unexpectedly encountered** project browser randomly collapses **2. The behavior you were expecting to see** project browser does not collapse **3. A list of the steps you took that exposed the issue** it happens randomly but mainly on save, and if 2 project windows are open ---
**Author:** ![justinedwards.jle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/justinedwards.jle/32/37854_2.png) [@justinedwards.jle](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/justinedwards.jle)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 12:43pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-3422-project-browser-randomly-collapses/73393/2 "2023-05-08T12:43:32Z")
• What operating system are you using? • What version of ignition is this? ---
**Author:** ![Mason\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Mason\_1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Mason_1)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 12:46pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-3422-project-browser-randomly-collapses/73393/3 "2023-05-08T12:46:58Z")
Windows 11 also happens on Windows 10 **Ignition Platform** `8.1.17 (b2022051210)` it also happens with 2 windows open and im trying to double click a object to open it from the project browser ---
**Author:** ![Mason\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Mason\_1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Mason_1)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 1:02pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-3422-project-browser-randomly-collapses/73393/4 "2023-05-08T13:02:43Z")
its not random its every time any object from the project browser is double clicked to view when there are 2 project designers open. ---
**Author:** ![Mason\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Mason\_1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Mason_1)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 1:04pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-3422-project-browser-randomly-collapses/73393/5 "2023-05-08T13:04:22Z")
or when you attempt to 'deep select' a object when 2 designers are open ---
**Author:** ![justinedwards.jle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/justinedwards.jle/32/37854_2.png) [@justinedwards.jle](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/justinedwards.jle)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 1:25pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-3422-project-browser-randomly-collapses/73393/6 "2023-05-08T13:25:17Z")
Linking the other thread you found: > [@\[BUG-3422\] Nuisance collapsing expanded containers in project browser ignition 8 designer 1.1.0](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-3422-nuisance-collapsing-expanded-containers-in-project-browser-ignition-8-designer-1-1-0/47402/18): > > same issue this is painful and should be number 1 priority but min minimizes the entire project browser does anyone else have 2 designers open when this happens? ---
**Author:** ![pascal.fragnoud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pascal.fragnoud/32/24728_2.png) [@pascal.fragnoud](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pascal.fragnoud)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 2:09pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-3422-project-browser-randomly-collapses/73393/7 "2023-05-08T14:09:23Z")
> [@Mason\_1](#): > > **Ignition Platform** `8.1.17` I think it's better now. Not perfect, but I don't pull my hair off as much anymore. See if you can update to a more recent version. ---
**Author:** ![Mason\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Mason\_1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Mason_1)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 2:17pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-3422-project-browser-randomly-collapses/73393/8 "2023-05-08T14:17:02Z")
better? it shouldn't happen ever there is no excuse for this. as far as i can tell this is on of the oldest bugs ---
**Author:** ![pascal.fragnoud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pascal.fragnoud/32/24728_2.png) [@pascal.fragnoud](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pascal.fragnoud)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 2:21pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-3422-project-browser-randomly-collapses/73393/9 "2023-05-08T14:21:03Z")
Feel free to use something else for you scada needs then. No ? Eh. ---
**Author:** ![justinedwards.jle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/justinedwards.jle/32/37854_2.png) [@justinedwards.jle](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/justinedwards.jle)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 3:08pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-3422-project-browser-randomly-collapses/73393/10 "2023-05-08T15:08:37Z")
> [@Mason\_1](#): > > this is on of the oldest bugs Your frustration is understandable, but if it makes you feel any better, IA does log most of their big fixes, so at least we know they're not idle when it comes to this sort of thing. Some how or another, this one simply has not yet topped the priority list: [2021 Change Logs](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/nightly-8-1-changelogs-2021/42410) [2022 Change Logs](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/nightly-8-1-changelogs-2022/54636) [2023 Change Logs](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/nightly-8-1-changelogs-2023/68524) ---
**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 3:30pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-3422-project-browser-randomly-collapses/73393/11 "2023-05-08T15:30:13Z")
**Steps to replicate** are the most important thing anyone can give us. We've _tried_ replicating this internally, and never had much luck. Obviously it affects some customers more than others, so finding out what's distinct about your environment/workflow would be very valuable. We _did_ fix some issues we found in a related area in 8.1.23; that may be why @pascal.fragnoud finds this less of a problem now, and I would agree with the suggestion to upgrade. ---
**Author:** ![justinedwards.jle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/justinedwards.jle/32/37854_2.png) [@justinedwards.jle](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/justinedwards.jle)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 3:45pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-3422-project-browser-randomly-collapses/73393/12 "2023-05-08T15:45:40Z")
> [@paul-griffith](#): > > We've _tried_ replicating this internally, and never had much luck FWIW, I'm running test environments on three different systems, and I'm not seeing this on any of them. I'm presently testing on 8.1.26 in a windows 10 environment running on a PC and a windows 10 virtual machine environment that is running on a Mac. ---
**Author:** ![Mason\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Mason\_1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Mason_1)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 3:57pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-3422-project-browser-randomly-collapses/73393/13 "2023-05-08T15:57:03Z")
I can reasonably consistently recreate it by opening 2 designers for the same project the first designer is always the broken one also almost always when i save changes on either one ---
**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 3:59pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-3422-project-browser-randomly-collapses/73393/14 "2023-05-08T15:59:22Z")
> [@Mason\_1](#): > > I can reasonably consistently recreate it Dude, you aren't on the latest version. Recreating it consistently on v8.1.17 is useless when it can't be recreated on the latest. Try the latest and report back. (IA won't be so blunt, but it's true all the same.)