# \[BUG\] Perspective pipes not visible sometimes

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-perspective-pipes-not-visible-sometimes/68706>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Tags:** perspective, vision\
**Created:** [January 18, 2023, 1:42am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-perspective-pipes-not-visible-sometimes/68706 "2023-01-18T01:42:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![nminchin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/nminchin/32/6911_2.png) [@nminchin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nminchin)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 1:42am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-perspective-pipes-not-visible-sometimes/68706/1 "2023-01-18T01:42:05Z")

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v8.1.23

Sometimes, my horizontal pipes aren't visible in a client session. It's fixed by reloading the page (refresh/re-navigate), but not very intuitive for an operator. This has been an issue before in Vision as well, where horizontal drawing tool lines sometimes don't display. If the lines were rotated by the smallest amount, the problem went away.

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/d/c/dce6ee917bb2bd6811fa209b3d609ffcad8b7e00.png)

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/9/1/91e84809fe30376c863b2b8e658fb85762330f6e.png)

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**Author:** ![Tissa.Wijesuriya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@Tissa.Wijesuriya](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Tissa.Wijesuriya)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 2:38am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-perspective-pipes-not-visible-sometimes/68706/2 "2023-03-31T02:38:22Z")

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Have you got a solution for this issue?  
We are having the same issue.

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**Author:** ![nminchin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/nminchin/32/6911_2.png) [@nminchin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nminchin)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 2:50am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-perspective-pipes-not-visible-sometimes/68706/3 "2023-03-31T02:50:00Z")

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Thoughts and prayers, they supposedly fix other things that happen in life 🙄

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**Author:** ![Melby\_Miraval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc8723/32.png) [@Melby\_Miraval](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Melby_Miraval)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2026, 9:42pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-perspective-pipes-not-visible-sometimes/68706/4 "2026-06-25T21:42:30Z")

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any update on this? I am having this same issue. I am toggling the visibility of the Perspective pipes and the changes correctly display in the designed but not in the client

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/0/0/0019a24ca185f21d6f0021a7c88b0c23c06cac5d.png)

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**Author:** ![Melby\_Miraval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc8723/32.png) [@Melby\_Miraval](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Melby_Miraval)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2026, 10:52pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/bug-perspective-pipes-not-visible-sometimes/68706/5 "2026-06-25T22:52:42Z")

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I am using a script to update the visibility but I am not sure why updating the peipe visible property directly does not work.
