# Building of graphics **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** vision, perspective\ **Created:** [April 12, 2023, 3:21pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/building-of-graphics/72360 "2023-04-12T15:21:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Christian\_Bakula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7cd45c/32.png) [@Christian\_Bakula](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Christian_Bakula)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 3:21pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/building-of-graphics/72360/1 "2023-04-12T15:21:36Z")
I am very new to Ignition. I'm much more accustomed to the standard HMI's....Factory talk, Red lion, Cmore etc etc. I'm not seeing a traditional way that I know of to build these graphics. When I say graphics I mean I basically take a P&ID diagram and build it according to that. I'm looking to do this in Perspective Ignitions newest rather than trying to do it in Vision that is no longer going to be receiving updates. I believe I read somewhere that you have to use a 3rd party software such as Inkscape to design my graphics. Any help is appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 3:23pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/building-of-graphics/72360/2 "2023-04-12T15:23:30Z")
> [@Christian\_Bakula](#): > > Vision that is no longer going to be receiving updates Not true. It is receiving updates and fixes--it just isn't the focus of new features. ---
**Author:** ![Christian\_Bakula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7cd45c/32.png) [@Christian\_Bakula](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Christian_Bakula)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 3:32pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/building-of-graphics/72360/3 "2023-04-12T15:32:18Z")
Ok maybe mispoken, or misled by sales people at Ignition. I'm still interested in making useful graphics and I don't mean from the "symbol factory" ---
**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 3:42pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/building-of-graphics/72360/4 "2023-04-12T15:42:10Z")
There are many topics on this forum discussing the various best practices. Here's a start: [https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/search?q=%23perspective%20inkscape%20pipes](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/search?q=%23perspective%20inkscape%20pipes) ---
**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 4:19pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/building-of-graphics/72360/5 "2023-04-12T16:19:23Z")
Also, seriously, if you don't need to run on mobile devices or browsers, Vision's going to be _great_, and a much easier learning process coming from other HMI platforms. ---
**Author:** ![jlandwerlen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@jlandwerlen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jlandwerlen)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 4:44pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/building-of-graphics/72360/6 "2023-04-12T16:44:12Z")
> [@Christian\_Bakula](#): > > I am very new to Ignition. I highly recommend that you complete IU, [https://www.inductiveuniversity.com](https://www.inductiveuniversity.com) If you can, take the Core and/or Gold courses as well. You will have a much easier time adapting if you can separate your thought process away from FactoryTrash or other platforms. Meaning, instead of asking how you do something in Ignition like you did in FT, ask yourself the question, how is it done best in Ignition. Even without drawing tools in Perspective, I would rather develop in Perspective before any of the other platforms you mentioned. Take the time to learn how to draw in Inkscape, or similar software, it won't take long to get the hang of things. Perspective will eventually have drawings tools, but probably not for several more months. ---
**Author:** ![nminchin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/nminchin/32/6911_2.png) [@nminchin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nminchin)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 8:03pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/building-of-graphics/72360/7 "2023-04-12T20:03:42Z")
Fwiw, I've been using Inkscape for many many years now for every scada platform I've used, even before jumping ship to Ignition. The only difference is, I would have to import into Gimp to do raster stuff as most other platforms I used before didn't support vector, and some didn't even support transparency..