# Button properties disappearing **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Tags:** ignition81, vision\ **Created:** [June 13, 2024, 5:42pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/button-properties-disappearing/91829 "2024-06-13T17:42:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Zachary\_Zlotnick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a183cd/32.png) [@Zachary\_Zlotnick](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Zachary_Zlotnick)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 5:42pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/button-properties-disappearing/91829/1 "2024-06-13T17:42:03Z")
I am using Ignition v8.1.38, configuring a simple button. Some pre-existing ones have the "Enabled" or "Visible" properties, however when I right-click "remove binding," or select "no binding" the property disappears entirely. I would like to disable the bindings for this without removing the ability to use them entirely for testing purposes. Are these properties deprecated in future versions and this is why they are being eliminated when I remove bindings? For example, here are two button instances, one with the Enabled property, the second not. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/6/b/6b7f15df1c4218dfe53e1ed4ac678c369337e221.png) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/8/c/8c256c9d2b440c2c03dba3a67b1a658066434a8b.png) ---
**Author:** ![bschroeder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/bschroeder/32/13260_2.png) [@bschroeder](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/bschroeder)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 5:44pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/button-properties-disappearing/91829/2 "2024-06-13T17:44:32Z")
Check that you are showing all the properties for the button. Drop down at the top of the properties pallet. ---
**Author:** ![leonardo.godoi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/leonardo.godoi/32/27178_2.png) [@leonardo.godoi](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/leonardo.godoi)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 5:52pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/button-properties-disappearing/91829/3 "2024-06-13T17:52:04Z")
I think this should be the loading gif for new Vision users ![java_o9agANKTat](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/3/0/30d0f1ca5b78780e200e5c10651307db6f378fe5.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Zachary\_Zlotnick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a183cd/32.png) [@Zachary\_Zlotnick](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Zachary_Zlotnick)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 6:18pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/button-properties-disappearing/91829/4 "2024-06-13T18:18:27Z")
Yes, that's it. Thank you! I never noticed that filter. ---
**Author:** ![leonardo.godoi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/leonardo.godoi/32/27178_2.png) [@leonardo.godoi](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/leonardo.godoi)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 6:36pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/button-properties-disappearing/91829/5 "2024-06-13T18:36:53Z")
Happens to the best of us. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Laubach](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/steve_laubach/32/60900_2.png) [@Steve\_Laubach](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Steve_Laubach)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 7:08pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/button-properties-disappearing/91829/6 "2024-06-13T19:08:36Z")
That burns a lot of people. It's really tricky if you have the pleasure of supporting the REAL old versions of vision where it didn't save in the "A" filter but that was like 15 or so years ago so you probably won't encounter that problem. I only know of one customer that refuses to upgrade one that old. ---
**Author:** ![leonardo.godoi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/leonardo.godoi/32/27178_2.png) [@leonardo.godoi](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/leonardo.godoi)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 7:20pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/button-properties-disappearing/91829/7 "2024-06-13T19:20:28Z")
What's the client's reason for not upgrading? 15 years ago i was just in Elementary school ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Laubach](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/steve_laubach/32/60900_2.png) [@Steve\_Laubach](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Steve_Laubach)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 7:22pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/button-properties-disappearing/91829/8 "2024-06-13T19:22:23Z")
Corporate controls everything and someone with power is pushing something else. ---
**Author:** ![leonardo.godoi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/leonardo.godoi/32/27178_2.png) [@leonardo.godoi](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/leonardo.godoi)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 7:24pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/button-properties-disappearing/91829/9 "2024-06-13T19:24:05Z")
Oh, same old sad tale then ---
**Author:** ![JordanCClark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/jordancclark/32/83362_2.png) [@JordanCClark](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/JordanCClark)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 7:30pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/button-properties-disappearing/91829/10 "2024-06-13T19:30:33Z")
Heck, I had an install of FactorySQL running up until a year ago. Easily 15 years. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Laubach](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/steve_laubach/32/60900_2.png) [@Steve\_Laubach](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Steve_Laubach)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 7:43pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/button-properties-disappearing/91829/11 "2024-06-13T19:43:47Z")
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it stop eating trash. We didn't put that Ignition in. An integrator from Canada did but then he died and we support it. It's sad they don't go all in on Ignition because the one they use (Plant PAX) is arguably worse than Ignition from 15+ years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Laubach](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/steve_laubach/32/60900_2.png) [@Steve\_Laubach](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Steve_Laubach)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 7:44pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/button-properties-disappearing/91829/12 "2024-06-13T19:44:35Z")
Yes, we have a few of those too. It's a workhorse and certainly reliable. My first project used FactorySQL almost 20 yrs ago and it still works.