# Cannot create autobackup for internal database "settings"? **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Created:** [May 13, 2011, 6:54pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cannot-create-autobackup-for-internal-database-settings/2941 "2011-05-13T18:54:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Dravik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@Dravik](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Dravik)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 6:54pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cannot-create-autobackup-for-internal-database-settings/2941/1 "2011-05-13T18:54:00Z")
I keep getting these errors thrown rather regularly. Since autobackups are always a good thing, Any ideas? I have attached the full text of the error. [autobackup\_error.txt](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/1X/096a3afd854263b91fdc852a4f6fdcab2089a7a2.txt) (5.17 KB) ---
**Author:** ![Travis.Cox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Travis.Cox](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Travis.Cox)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 8:33pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cannot-create-autobackup-for-internal-database-settings/2941/2 "2011-05-13T20:33:15Z")
Well, you are getting out of memory errors. Go into the Gateway configuration page and see what the Memory usage is under Status. You might want to try restarting Ignition. If you are using the 64bit version of Ignition you can increase the amount of memory if needed. ---
**Author:** ![Dravik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@Dravik](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Dravik)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 3:42am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cannot-create-autobackup-for-internal-database-settings/2941/3 "2011-05-14T03:42:38Z")
It ave’s about 175MB, according to the Status screen. Running the 32bit version. ---
**Author:** ![Travis.Cox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Travis.Cox](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Travis.Cox)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 2:59pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cannot-create-autobackup-for-internal-database-settings/2941/4 "2011-05-16T14:59:03Z")
Go the C:\Program Files\Inductive Automation\Ignition\contexts\main\db and let me know how big the files are in that folder? ---
**Author:** ![Dravik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@Dravik](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Dravik)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 3:10pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cannot-create-autobackup-for-internal-database-settings/2941/5 "2011-05-16T15:10:28Z")
settings.app.log 1kb settings.data 2,048 kb settings.lck 1kb settings.lobs 38,688 kb settings.log 1kb settings.properties 1kb settings.script 126kb ---
**Author:** ![Dravik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@Dravik](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Dravik)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 4:18pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cannot-create-autobackup-for-internal-database-settings/2941/6 "2011-05-18T16:18:48Z")
Did try a full restart of the system yesterday, The error persists however. That settings.lobs file seems… large for just settings? ---
**Author:** ![Carl.Gould](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/carl.gould/32/7262_2.png) [@Carl.Gould](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Carl.Gould)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 6:56pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cannot-create-autobackup-for-internal-database-settings/2941/7 "2011-06-17T18:56:21Z")
That database isn’t overly large. Our projects take up a fair bit of room. The log pretty clearly indicates you’re running out of RAM. What does Windows report as the memory usage for the Gateway process? ---
**Author:** ![Dravik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@Dravik](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Dravik)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 2:31pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cannot-create-autobackup-for-internal-database-settings/2941/8 "2011-06-19T14:31:01Z")
4,036k at the moment. Java is humming along at about 600m. The system as a whole has 4g(32bit Os however) ---
**Author:** ![Carl.Gould](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/carl.gould/32/7262_2.png) [@Carl.Gould](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Carl.Gould)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2011, 10:14pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cannot-create-autobackup-for-internal-database-settings/2941/9 "2011-06-23T22:14:29Z")
you might try increasing the amount of memory allocated to Ignition via ignition.conf to 1500mb. ---
**Author:** ![Dravik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@Dravik](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Dravik)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 9:15pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cannot-create-autobackup-for-internal-database-settings/2941/10 "2011-06-29T21:15:14Z")
Gave that a try, The error stayed away for almost 30mins, but it returned! ---
**Author:** ![Travis.Cox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Travis.Cox](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Travis.Cox)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 9:27pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cannot-create-autobackup-for-internal-database-settings/2941/11 "2011-06-29T21:27:24Z")
Right, what version of Ignition do you have? You want to give us a call so we can take a deeper look into your system. ---
**Author:** ![Dravik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@Dravik](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Dravik)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cannot-create-autobackup-for-internal-database-settings/2941/12 "2011-06-30T15:57:20Z")
7.2.6 and I’ll put a call in, thanks for the help!