# Cannot Get Ignition To Start Anymore **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Created:** [May 7, 2018, 9:59pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cannot-get-ignition-to-start-anymore/17950 "2018-05-07T21:59:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dws2384](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@dws2384](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dws2384)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 9:59pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cannot-get-ignition-to-start-anymore/17950/1 "2018-05-07T21:59:26Z")
All was well and now Ignition will not start. message I am getting Removed stale pid file: /usr/local/ignition/./Ignition Gateway.pid Waiting for Ignition Gateway… WARNING: Ignition Gateway may have failed to start. Any help would be greatly appreciated ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cannot-get-ignition-to-start-anymore/17950/2 "2018-05-07T22:07:41Z")
Can you attach your (zipped) wrapper.log files? ---
**Author:** ![dws2384](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@dws2384](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dws2384)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 10:09pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cannot-get-ignition-to-start-anymore/17950/3 "2018-05-07T22:09:48Z")
Sure see attached [wrapper.log.zip](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/2X/a/aa468f7ae76a23aecb31960128221a87267affec.zip) (208.4 KB) ---
**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 10:19pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cannot-get-ignition-to-start-anymore/17950/4 "2018-05-07T22:19:07Z")
That wrapper log shows a gateway restarting normally, albeit slowly. Are you sure you’re not able to get to the gateway, about a minute after kicking off the restart? ---
**Author:** ![dws2384](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@dws2384](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dws2384)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 10:29pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cannot-get-ignition-to-start-anymore/17950/5 "2018-05-07T22:29:19Z")
I believe that wrapper may have been out of date. Please see attached now with errors [wrapper.log.zip](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/2X/8/8fa441c24affd816ed489c5a3e0316a0fb967cb4.zip) (209.8 KB) ---
**Author:** ![phillip.bow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce73a5/32.png) [@phillip.bow](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/phillip.bow)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 10:40pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cannot-get-ignition-to-start-anymore/17950/6 "2018-05-07T22:40:38Z")
Did you modify your ignition.conf recently? Looks like there is a JVM argument there that might be improperly formatted which will cause the JVM to fail on startup. Searching for “64” in that file might prove insightful based on this error: INFO | jvm 5 | 2018/05/07 18:22:01 | Unrecognized option: -d64 ---
**Author:** ![dws2384](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@dws2384](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dws2384)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 10:43pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cannot-get-ignition-to-start-anymore/17950/7 "2018-05-07T22:43:08Z")
Yes I was trying to increase the memory. I put it back to where it was and still is crashing ---
**Author:** ![phillip.bow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce73a5/32.png) [@phillip.bow](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/phillip.bow)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 10:45pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cannot-get-ignition-to-start-anymore/17950/8 "2018-05-07T22:45:52Z")
You can post the ignition.conf here if you want some extra eyes to look for the issue, or revert to a backup if you have one. It isn’t quite back to the original form or it would be starting up. The JVM is pretty sensitive about what parameters it accepts when it is launched. ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 10:46pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cannot-get-ignition-to-start-anymore/17950/9 "2018-05-07T22:46:23Z")
I think you’ve upgraded to Java 10 at some point. What happens when you do `java -version` in the terminal? ---
**Author:** ![dws2384](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@dws2384](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dws2384)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 10:49pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cannot-get-ignition-to-start-anymore/17950/10 "2018-05-07T22:49:41Z")
Ahhhh. Ya 10.0.1 I guess that is the issue. ---
**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 10:55pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cannot-get-ignition-to-start-anymore/17950/11 "2018-05-07T22:55:09Z")
Yep - Java 10 is not (and won’t be) supported on Ignition 7.9. Java versions past 10 will only be supported on 8.0. Ignition 7.9.6+ will support Java 8 or 9 on the gateway. ---
**Author:** ![dws2384](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@dws2384](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dws2384)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 10:55pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/cannot-get-ignition-to-start-anymore/17950/12 "2018-05-07T22:55:55Z")
uninstalled 10, back up and running. Thanks