# Client Tags stay stale after connection is restored in Ignition 8.0.14 **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Tags:** ignition80\ **Created:** [July 22, 2020, 2:39am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/client-tags-stay-stale-after-connection-is-restored-in-ignition-8-0-14/36927 "2020-07-22T02:39:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![craig.atkinson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba9def/32.png) [@craig.atkinson](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/craig.atkinson)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2020, 2:39am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/client-tags-stay-stale-after-connection-is-restored-in-ignition-8-0-14/36927/1 "2020-07-22T02:39:41Z")
After upgrading to Ignition 8.0.14, we are experiencing an issue when a remote pc running ignition vision client loses connection and all the tags go stale. However when connection is restored to the client the tags stay red even though they are connected again. They even update and show new data underneath the red overlay. In the designer the tags are fine and show no errors or bad quality. The only way to get rid of the red over lay is to refresh the client by closing and starting it up again or by pushing update from the designer. This is not ideal because it is meant to be a dashboard display which runs without any user input. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/9/a/9a1dbaa1b0409b3d7d142c41088bd5931aeea200.jpeg) I am not sure this is a bug or a configuration issue on our end. Any help diagnosing the issue would be appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2020, 10:29am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/client-tags-stay-stale-after-connection-is-restored-in-ignition-8-0-14/36927/2 "2020-07-22T10:29:56Z")
Most likely a bug. Consider contacting [support](https://support.inductiveautomation.com/) to open a ticket. ---
**Author:** ![witman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d2c977/32.png) [@witman](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/witman)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2020, 11:28pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/client-tags-stay-stale-after-connection-is-restored-in-ignition-8-0-14/36927/3 "2020-07-22T23:28:33Z")
Yes, we haven’t filed a support ticket, but we also have this issue in 8.0.12. Swapping to another window and back again also resolves it for us (easier than closing and reopening client or pushing an update). A possible workaround for a dashboard display would be making another copy of your dashboard window and automatically switching between them either periodically, or based on some quality information in the window. I expect the root issue will require a fix from IA. ---
**Author:** ![joshdunstan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/joshdunstan/32/43306_2.png) [@joshdunstan](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/joshdunstan)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2020, 12:08am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/client-tags-stay-stale-after-connection-is-restored-in-ignition-8-0-14/36927/4 "2020-09-01T00:08:59Z")
I also have this issue with Ignition 8.0.14. Didn’t have it in 8.0.4. Any updates? ---
**Author:** ![joshdunstan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/joshdunstan/32/43306_2.png) [@joshdunstan](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/joshdunstan)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2020, 12:18am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/client-tags-stay-stale-after-connection-is-restored-in-ignition-8-0-14/36927/5 "2020-09-01T00:18:19Z")
Edit/save of the tag provider also recovers… without having to close/reopen the client. ---
**Author:** ![witman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d2c977/32.png) [@witman](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/witman)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2020, 3:04pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/client-tags-stay-stale-after-connection-is-restored-in-ignition-8-0-14/36927/6 "2020-09-01T15:04:07Z")
This is an issue in 8.0.15 as well. > [@Stale Overlay Stays](http://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/stale-overlay-stays/37699/6): > > Hello! I put in a ticket and they found that it was a bug. They will update me whenever they know what version it will be fixed in, and I’ll update y’all here! ---
**Author:** ![witman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d2c977/32.png) [@witman](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/witman)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 7:21pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/client-tags-stay-stale-after-connection-is-restored-in-ignition-8-0-14/36927/7 "2020-09-11T19:21:39Z")
It looks like this is resolved in 8.1: > [@Nightly 8.1 Changelogs - 2020](http://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/nightly-8-1-changelogs-2020/38316/9): > > Nightly Changelog: 8.1.0-b20200909 Data Model 324: UDT Defs with Params that match built-in Params will fail to upgrade properly when upgrading to 8.0.15+ UDT Defs with parameters matching Built-in parameters no longer prevent tags from starting up. 323: Tag bindings get stuck in stale quality after connection between designer/client and remote server is re-established When connection between a designer/client and remote server is severed then reconnected, tag bindings on vision components w…