# Data Centers & High Performance HMI **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Tags:** ignition81\ **Created:** [November 18, 2023, 2:01pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/data-centers-high-performance-hmi/82088 "2023-11-18T14:01:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jlandwerlen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@jlandwerlen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jlandwerlen)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2023, 2:01pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/data-centers-high-performance-hmi/82088/1 "2023-11-18T14:01:08Z")
I've wanted to ask this question for awhile and IAs release of the data center demo refreshed my memory. I'm curious to get opinions from those that do data center (or really any electrical project) work and how they apply High Performance best practices to it. Looking at IAs demo, they don't appear to follow High Performance, yet they follow what the industry has done over the years, ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/9/1/916fdd5e5283e12709e8da4495b89c63b609ebcb.png) So a few questions: - Do you still use red for energized? Or use more of a High Performance color scheme? - Do you animate graphics like buses, or leave those a static color? Good article for High Performance and Electrical: > **[Applying High Performance HMI Graphics to Substation HMI](https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/applying-high-performance-hmi-graphics-substation-ricardo-olsen/)** > > In the process control field the concept of high performance graphics now seems to be well known and is having a growing adoption. But substation HMI graphics tends to be a more impenetrable field for high performance graphics. IAs demo: [https://demo.ia.io/data/perspective/client/data-center-demo/](https://demo.ia.io/data/perspective/client/data-center-demo/) ---
**Author:** ![Matrix\_Engineering](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/matrix_engineering/32/19781_2.png) [@Matrix\_Engineering](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Matrix_Engineering)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/data-centers-high-performance-hmi/82088/2 "2023-11-18T17:25:12Z")
@Chris_Taylor ---
**Author:** ![Chris\_Taylor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/chris_taylor/32/3315_2.png) [@Chris\_Taylor](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Chris_Taylor)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2023, 5:39pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/data-centers-high-performance-hmi/82088/3 "2023-11-18T17:39:44Z")
Thanks Patrick, I had a preview earlier in the week. not something we would use at this time. ---
**Author:** ![Matrix\_Engineering](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/matrix_engineering/32/19781_2.png) [@Matrix\_Engineering](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Matrix_Engineering)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2023, 6:34pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/data-centers-high-performance-hmi/82088/4 "2023-11-18T18:34:40Z")
> [@jlandwerlen](#): > > - Do you still use red for energized? Or use more of a High Performance color scheme? > - Do you animate graphics like buses, or leave those a static color? @Chris_Taylor I tagged you for your thoughts on this 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Chris\_Taylor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/chris_taylor/32/3315_2.png) [@Chris\_Taylor](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Chris_Taylor)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 1:47pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/data-centers-high-performance-hmi/82088/5 "2023-11-20T13:47:08Z")
Patrick Like many things, it depends, and it really depends on who's looking at the view and why. For high contrast, "at a glance" views, then red and black are still very good, we will always animate busbars but try to declutter, as we zoom out. We do use the High Performance scheme for views, I'm not fond of grey for live and black for dead but we always have a toggle in the session to switch to old fashioned colours. For alarming indicators, the High Performance scheme is great and we use these al the time, of course for this kind of system, a mains failure is a normal function of operation so not a fault as such but the team on site will want to know that there was a mains failure and a successful transfer. ---
**Author:** ![jlandwerlen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@jlandwerlen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jlandwerlen)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 2:13pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/data-centers-high-performance-hmi/82088/6 "2023-11-20T14:13:54Z")
Here's my rub, to truly follow High Performance you need to properly use colors. For example, you shouldn't use alarm colors in typical graphics. A critical or high alarm usually uses the color red, so that means you can't use red for anything else. How do you typically animate busbars? Do you simply use the upstream breaker/contact state, or use something like voltage or current presence? I should mention, I do understand that if High Performance isn't followed it's not like you will be thrown into prison. But, some projects, like government projects, must fully follow requirements and the integrator usually doesn't have the authority to decide what they follow and what they don't. ---
**Author:** ![Chris\_Taylor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/chris_taylor/32/3315_2.png) [@Chris\_Taylor](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Chris_Taylor)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 10:08am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/data-centers-high-performance-hmi/82088/7 "2023-11-21T10:08:54Z")
> [@jlandwerlen](#): > > How do you typically animate busbars? Do you simply use the upstream breaker/contact state, or use something like voltage or current presence? We calculate it from each known source through breakers/fused switches etc ensuring that we take in to account the connected status if available, closed is not always closed, usually in a script. > [@jlandwerlen](#): > > some projects, like government projects, must fully follow requirements and the integrator usually doesn't have the authority to decide what they follow and what they don't. Then we do as required, but thankfully most of our customers and their consultants have learnt to listen to us and allow variations to the scope. ---
**Author:** ![Parth\_Pandya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Parth\_Pandya](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Parth_Pandya)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 4:20pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/data-centers-high-performance-hmi/82088/8 "2024-01-03T16:20:34Z")
from where can i download Data-center app? i download demo from exchange but in there no data center design? ---
**Author:** ![jlandwerlen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@jlandwerlen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jlandwerlen)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 4:25pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/data-centers-high-performance-hmi/82088/9 "2024-01-03T16:25:07Z")
I don't think IA has released it yet, you can try it out online, but I don't think you can download it yet. ---
**Author:** ![Parth\_Pandya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Parth\_Pandya](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Parth_Pandya)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 4:26pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/data-centers-high-performance-hmi/82088/10 "2024-01-03T16:26:24Z")
oh ok not even for integrator? ---
**Author:** ![jlandwerlen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@jlandwerlen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jlandwerlen)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 4:27pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/data-centers-high-performance-hmi/82088/11 "2024-01-03T16:27:36Z")
Are you an integrator? ---
**Author:** ![Parth\_Pandya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Parth\_Pandya](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Parth_Pandya)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 4:28pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/data-centers-high-performance-hmi/82088/12 "2024-01-03T16:28:06Z")
yes ---
**Author:** ![jlandwerlen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@jlandwerlen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jlandwerlen)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 4:28pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/data-centers-high-performance-hmi/82088/13 "2024-01-03T16:28:36Z")
Are you you able to download it? If not, then the answer is no. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Parth\_Pandya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Parth\_Pandya](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Parth_Pandya)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 4:29pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/data-centers-high-performance-hmi/82088/14 "2024-01-03T16:29:58Z")
😅 make sense