# Database user source not allowing login to designer

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/database-user-source-not-allowing-login-to-designer/79163>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Tags:** ignition81\
**Created:** [September 14, 2023, 3:13pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/database-user-source-not-allowing-login-to-designer/79163 "2023-09-14T15:13:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![YF129701](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/yf129701/32/60498_2.png) [@YF129701](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/YF129701)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 3:13pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/database-user-source-not-allowing-login-to-designer/79163/1 "2023-09-14T15:13:23Z")

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I have a database user source that was working with no issues in the past. We moved it to a new gateway a few months ago and it still worked fine. Recently, I haven't been able to log into the designer, even though I can verify that the Database user source properties look fine and can verify my credentials on the gateway webpage (so I know my username and password are correct).

I keep getting the pesky error `Login failed: Please try again`.  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/d/4/d4952e79f5a1f20bfead59526bb73f26a08c1cb5.png)

I also verified the last time I was fixing this that the project settings point to this user source and IdP, so I'm at my wit's end as to why this doesn't work.

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**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 3:32pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/database-user-source-not-allowing-login-to-designer/79163/2 "2023-09-14T15:32:27Z")

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What about the gateway's general designer login permission? [Gateway General Security Settings - Ignition User Manual 8.1 - Ignition Documentation](https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC81/Gateway+General+Security+Settings)

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**Author:** ![YF129701](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/yf129701/32/60498_2.png) [@YF129701](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/YF129701)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 4:05pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/database-user-source-not-allowing-login-to-designer/79163/3 "2023-09-14T16:05:24Z")

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That was it... I missed the part where it's the Gateway AND DESIGNER security settings. Now, what's more weird is who could have changed this....

Thanks @paul-griffith!!

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**Author:** ![Rahul\_Bhakte1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c89c15/32.png) [@Rahul\_Bhakte1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Rahul_Bhakte1)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 9:56am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/database-user-source-not-allowing-login-to-designer/79163/4 "2024-01-04T09:56:54Z")

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Hello @paul-griffith  
I am facing the same issue but with the gateway login. I am not sure how can I change the settings in gateway without login.

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**Author:** ![Transistor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/transistor/32/3380_2.png) [@Transistor](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Transistor)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 10:57am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/database-user-source-not-allowing-login-to-designer/79163/5 "2024-01-04T10:57:46Z")

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> [@Rahul\_Bhakte1](#):
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> I am facing the same issue but with the gateway login.

That's not the same issue. You need to start a new thread.

> I am not sure how can I change the settings in gateway without login.

You can't. You can only reset it if you've lost the password.

[https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC81/Gateway+Command-line+Utility+-+gwcmd](https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC81/Gateway+Command-line+Utility+-+gwcmd)

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**Author:** ![Rahul\_Bhakte1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c89c15/32.png) [@Rahul\_Bhakte1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Rahul_Bhakte1)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 12:25pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/database-user-source-not-allowing-login-to-designer/79163/6 "2024-01-04T12:25:30Z")

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Thanks @Transistor. That helped me to resolve this issue.  
The issue was with the user source properties.

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**Author:** ![Transistor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/transistor/32/3380_2.png) [@Transistor](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Transistor)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 1:29pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/database-user-source-not-allowing-login-to-designer/79163/7 "2024-01-04T13:29:30Z")

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See [Login When Active Directory Unreachable - #2 by Transistor](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/login-when-active-directory-unreachable/65875/2) for more ideas to prevent this occurring again.
