# Default is not default **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Created:** [June 7, 2012, 11:08pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/default-is-not-default/4594 "2012-06-07T23:08:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Robert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e95f7d/32.png) [@Robert](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 11:08pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/default-is-not-default/4594/1 "2012-06-07T23:08:06Z")
I just upgraded my gateway from 7.2.9 to 7.4.3 A number of projects were using the Default authentication profile. After the upgrade, they all got a error about the a missing default profile. I had to change the Default profile to default. Then I had to change all the projects that used the Default profile to use the default profile. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Carl.Gould](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/carl.gould/32/7262_2.png) [@Carl.Gould](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Carl.Gould)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 3:23pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/default-is-not-default/4594/2 "2012-06-08T15:23:59Z")
This sounds very odd. Why did you “have” to change the capital “D” to a lowercase “d”? Do you have a 7.2 backup sitting around that you could try and replicate this on to see if it happens again? ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e95f7d/32.png) [@Robert](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 7:24pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/default-is-not-default/4594/3 "2012-06-08T19:24:47Z")
I have the auto backup. I think it was just before the update. Can I get a ticket number to upload it to? (it’s 20M) ---
**Author:** ![greg.simpson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/greg.simpson/32/3135_2.png) [@greg.simpson](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/greg.simpson)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 8:37pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/default-is-not-default/4594/4 "2012-06-08T20:37:33Z")
Ticket number is 7239 ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e95f7d/32.png) [@Robert](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2012, 7:19pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/default-is-not-default/4594/5 "2012-06-11T19:19:28Z")
Ticket number is invalid or … I think I waiting to long. Can we try a different/renewed one? ---
**Author:** ![greg.simpson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/greg.simpson/32/3135_2.png) [@greg.simpson](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/greg.simpson)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2012, 9:16pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/default-is-not-default/4594/6 "2012-06-11T21:16:13Z")
I just reactivated that ticket, you should be able to attach to it now. Again, that is ticket 7239. ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e95f7d/32.png) [@Robert](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2012, 9:40pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/default-is-not-default/4594/7 "2012-06-11T21:40:29Z")
My file has been successfully uploaded ---
**Author:** ![greg.simpson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/greg.simpson/32/3135_2.png) [@greg.simpson](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/greg.simpson)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2012, 10:21pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/default-is-not-default/4594/8 "2012-06-11T22:21:52Z")
Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Carl.Gould](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/carl.gould/32/7262_2.png) [@Carl.Gould](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Carl.Gould)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 11:39pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/default-is-not-default/4594/9 "2012-06-13T23:39:50Z")
Well, I’m looking at your Gateway but I’m not sure what I should be looking at. You have an authentication profile called “default”. Some of your projects are referencing “default” - these are fine. Some are referencing “Default”: these are broken. Perhaps authentication profile lookup was case insensitive in 7.2, and you’d typed them in inconsistently… ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e95f7d/32.png) [@Robert](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 8:34pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/default-is-not-default/4594/10 "2012-06-14T20:34:08Z")
Wrong backup then. That was after I changed everything from “Default” I really should take a backup _before_ I mess with things. Like I said, everything was “Default” then I upgraded and everything looked good until you tried to open a project. Then you would get an error about being unable to find the “default” profile even though the project referenced the “Default” profile which did exist. is “default” hard coded somewhere? ---
**Author:** ![greg.simpson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/greg.simpson/32/3135_2.png) [@greg.simpson](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/greg.simpson)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 10:19pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/default-is-not-default/4594/11 "2012-06-14T22:19:40Z")
Its not hard coded but there is a “default” profile when Ignition is installed ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e95f7d/32.png) [@Robert](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/default-is-not-default/4594/12 "2012-06-14T22:59:19Z")
Just tried to recreate this on my dev box. Upgrading from 7.4 to 7.5 and it all worked fine. Everything was “default”. I changed it to “Default” and then upgraded. ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e95f7d/32.png) [@Robert](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 8:25pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/default-is-not-default/4594/13 "2012-07-03T20:25:45Z")
Problem is back on our Demo system. I have a backup I can upload. ---
**Author:** ![greg.simpson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/greg.simpson/32/3135_2.png) [@greg.simpson](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/greg.simpson)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 10:37pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/default-is-not-default/4594/14 "2012-07-03T22:37:35Z")
Upload it to the same tag number, 7239 ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e95f7d/32.png) [@Robert](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 3:35pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/default-is-not-default/4594/15 "2012-07-04T15:35:57Z")
Uploaded. System is running 7.4.3(b995) I also upload the login details in a separate file. ---
**Author:** ![greg.simpson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/greg.simpson/32/3135_2.png) [@greg.simpson](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/greg.simpson)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 3:10pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/default-is-not-default/4594/16 "2012-07-05T15:10:17Z")
Ok, we did get it, thank you ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e95f7d/32.png) [@Robert](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2012, 3:50pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/default-is-not-default/4594/17 "2012-07-31T15:50:10Z")
Have you found anything? ---
**Author:** ![Carl.Gould](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/carl.gould/32/7262_2.png) [@Carl.Gould](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Carl.Gould)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 3:05pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/default-is-not-default/4594/18 "2012-08-02T15:05:14Z")
I am thoroughly confused by this thread. What exactly should we be looking for or … at? ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e95f7d/32.png) [@Robert](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 5:41pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/default-is-not-default/4594/19 "2012-08-02T17:41:08Z")
the backup I sent had a “Default” authentication profile defined. The demo project was configured to use it. When I tried to login, I would get an error that said unable to find “default” profile. The salient point here here is the capital D vs the lowercase d. (I may have the case inverted, I forget) ---
**Author:** ![dave.fogle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/43a26b/32.png) [@dave.fogle](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dave.fogle)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 11:15pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/default-is-not-default/4594/20 "2012-08-03T23:15:02Z")
When you went in and changed the name to the profile did everything start working ok? [Next page](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/default-is-not-default/4594.md?page=2)