# Designer: Project Browser collapses all nodes on project save/saveAll/update

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/designer-project-browser-collapses-all-nodes-on-project-save-saveall-update/53398>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Created:** [November 23, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/designer-project-browser-collapses-all-nodes-on-project-save-saveall-update/53398 "2021-11-23T18:24:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![gdube](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/gdube/32/41701_2.png) [@gdube](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/gdube)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/designer-project-browser-collapses-all-nodes-on-project-save-saveall-update/53398/1 "2021-11-23T18:24:03Z")

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Hi guys,  
I'm wondering about the fact that the Project Browser (jtree) is always collapsing all its nodes (Vision, Perspective, Named Queries, all of them!) when you save or update your project, either via the menu or the keyboard shortcuts.

There's only a few people that posted about it, and it seems to be that way since 2014.  
Is everyone experiencing and coping with it somehow, or is it, as Kathy mentioned [here](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/project-browser-collapsing-on-project-save/9351/4), something that only a few live with for whatever reason?

> [@Project Browser Collapsing on Project Save](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/project-browser-collapsing-on-project-save/9351/6):
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> In 2019, using version 7.9.9 this is still an issue. Am I missing something? This behavior is very annoying. I have to re-expand the Project Browser tree almost every time I save. It looks like this has been going on since 2010. Also, If i change the window size when editing a script, then work on something else then come back to the script, the window size is back to small. is there a setting for this?

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**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 6:32pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/designer-project-browser-collapses-all-nodes-on-project-save-saveall-update/53398/2 "2021-11-23T18:32:07Z")

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This does not happen for me, in Perspective, Vision, named queries, etc. I’m on ~8.1.13, but I’ve never noticed this issue.

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**Author:** ![gdube](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/gdube/32/41701_2.png) [@gdube](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/gdube)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 6:34pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/designer-project-browser-collapses-all-nodes-on-project-save-saveall-update/53398/3 "2021-11-23T18:34:15Z")

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Interesting. Are you on Windows 10?

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**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 6:36pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/designer-project-browser-collapses-all-nodes-on-project-save-saveall-update/53398/4 "2021-11-23T18:36:20Z")

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Yep. I’ve seen a bug ticket specifically for _deleting_ certain nodes (i.e. reporting, scripts) causing a full tree refresh, but a simple save definitely shouldn’t.

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**Author:** ![gdube](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/gdube/32/41701_2.png) [@gdube](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/gdube)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 8:34pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/designer-project-browser-collapses-all-nodes-on-project-save-saveall-update/53398/5 "2021-11-23T20:34:59Z")

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You know, I’m beginning to think it’s related to the modules my project has.  
Specifially, the Sepasoft modules. I’ll try copying my project and importing it in a new gateway without Sepasoft.

Thank you for the tip.

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**Author:** ![gdube](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/gdube/32/41701_2.png) [@gdube](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/gdube)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 10:05pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/designer-project-browser-collapses-all-nodes-on-project-save-saveall-update/53398/6 "2021-11-23T22:05:30Z")

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And so it was the Sepasoft modules after all, most likely its integration with the Project Browser to configure “MES Scripts”.

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![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/b/e/bebf8299261aef94d0c66f2c8c568d0876a6e8f8.png)

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**Author:** ![ictabak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@ictabak](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/ictabak)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 6:38pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/designer-project-browser-collapses-all-nodes-on-project-save-saveall-update/53398/7 "2023-01-13T18:38:28Z")

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I am experiencing the same issue with version 8.1.23 and SepaSoft installed. Does anybody know if a ticket was created for this issue and if so, what the number would be ?  
Thanks!

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**Author:** ![gdube](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/gdube/32/41701_2.png) [@gdube](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/gdube)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 7:24pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/designer-project-browser-collapses-all-nodes-on-project-save-saveall-update/53398/8 "2023-01-13T19:24:35Z")

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I made a ticket with Sepasoft back then, but they basically told me to not hold my breath for a fix.

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**Author:** ![ictabak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@ictabak](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/ictabak)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 7:43pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/designer-project-browser-collapses-all-nodes-on-project-save-saveall-update/53398/9 "2023-01-13T19:43:26Z")

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Thanks for the update!

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**Author:** ![liam1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e68b1a/32.png) [@liam1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/liam1)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 6:20am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/designer-project-browser-collapses-all-nodes-on-project-save-saveall-update/53398/10 "2023-08-15T06:20:06Z")

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Finally realized why this was happening , and they still haven't fixed this bug.

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**Author:** ![Jeff\_Fitch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/jeff_fitch/32/71281_2.png) [@Jeff\_Fitch](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Jeff_Fitch)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 6:20pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/designer-project-browser-collapses-all-nodes-on-project-save-saveall-update/53398/11 "2025-08-22T18:20:44Z")

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Hey everyone,  
I’m Jeff Fitch, Product Development Manager at Sepasoft. This one turned out to be trickier than it looked at first, but one of our devs tracked it down and got it fixed this morning. The fix will be rolling out with the August maintenance release.

Appreciate your patience and thanks for helping us keep things moving forward!
