# Designer Randomly Closes

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/designer-randomly-closes/70028>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Created:** [February 17, 2023, 7:58pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/designer-randomly-closes/70028 "2023-02-17T19:58:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/aeb1de/32.png) [@Jonathan](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Jonathan)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 7:58pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/designer-randomly-closes/70028/1 "2023-02-17T19:58:10Z")

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On my work VM my designers, without warning, will randomly close. This happens on both 7.9.x and 8.1.x. Is there some logging I can look at or turn on to give me information about what is going on? The windows events logs do not have anything about java or anything else going on at that time.

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**Author:** ![andrews](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@andrews](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/andrews)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 9:27pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/designer-randomly-closes/70028/2 "2023-02-17T21:27:39Z")

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Have you checked the logs in thew gateway?

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**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/aeb1de/32.png) [@Jonathan](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Jonathan)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 9:41pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/designer-randomly-closes/70028/3 "2023-02-17T21:41:33Z")

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only thing in the gateway log at that time was this

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/3/8/3801180d248086adb509386ea91b20e157e17211.png)