# Difficult day with ubuntu today - gateway does not start

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**Category:** Ignition\
**Tags:** ignition80\
**Created:** [March 6, 2023, 6:08pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/difficult-day-with-ubuntu-today-gateway-does-not-start/70688 "2023-03-06T18:08:41Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 6:08pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/difficult-day-with-ubuntu-today-gateway-does-not-start/70688/1 "2023-03-06T18:08:41Z")

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I just gave up an idea to use Demo VM in hyperV and revered to the original demo Vm in VMware.  
It run ok first time but i noticed that there is no valid loopbackup OPC connection so removed security in the OPC gateway settings selecting none in security polices and then restarted VM.  
After the restart VM the gateway is failing to start.  
Any chance you help me to do the basic diagnostic before deleting this VM and starting with the new one?  
Where do i find wrapper file in ubuntu?

In general i did see many times that loopback connection failed which most of the time was simply by restarting - i wonder if more people experienced this? could it be antivirus or firewall issues by any chance?

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/7/c/7cdd231cfcf1594c564a148291d931963435671a.png)

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**Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 6:21pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/difficult-day-with-ubuntu-today-gateway-does-not-start/70688/2 "2023-03-06T18:21:44Z")

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It looks like this gateway might have been upgraded as part of an EAM Agent Upgrade and something failed. I would check the controller logs and grab the wrapper.log file. Depending on the situation here it is probably appropriate to reach out to support.

Typically the install location is `usr/local/bin/ignition` for linux

Hope that gets you pointed in the right direction

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**Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 6:31pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/difficult-day-with-ubuntu-today-gateway-does-not-start/70688/3 "2023-03-06T18:31:34Z")

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"""  
23/03/06 10:18:39 | --\> Wrapper Started as Daemon  
STATUS | wrapper | 2023/03/06 10:18:39 | Java Service Wrapper Standard Edition 64-bit 3.5.35  
STATUS | wrapper | 2023/03/06 10:18:39 | Copyright (C) 1999-2018 Tanuki Software, Ltd. All Rights Reserved.  
STATUS | wrapper | 2023/03/06 10:18:39 | [http://wrapper.tanukisoftware.com](http://wrapper.tanukisoftware.com)  
STATUS | wrapper | 2023/03/06 10:18:39 | Licensed to Inductive Automation for Inductive Automation  
STATUS | wrapper | 2023/03/06 10:18:39 |  
WARN | wrapper | 2023/03/06 10:18:39 | ---------------------------------------------------------------------  
WARN | wrapper | 2023/03/06 10:18:39 | The JVM is being launched with a debugger enabled and could possibly  
WARN | wrapper | 2023/03/06 10:18:39 | be suspended. To avoid unwanted shutdowns, timeouts will be  
WARN | wrapper | 2023/03/06 10:18:39 | disabled, removing the ability to detect and restart frozen JVMs.  
WARN | wrapper | 2023/03/06 10:18:39 | ---------------------------------------------------------------------  
STATUS | wrapper | 2023/03/06 10:18:39 | Launching a JVM...  
INFO | jvm 1 | 2023/03/06 10:18:40 | Listening for transport dt\_socket at address: 8000  
INFO | jvm 1 | 2023/03/06 10:18:40 | WrapperManager: Initializing...  
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**Author:** ![hewking32](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5ac83/32.png) [@hewking32](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/hewking32)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 6:33pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/difficult-day-with-ubuntu-today-gateway-does-not-start/70688/4 "2023-03-06T18:33:32Z")

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is there anything obvious which prevents gateway from starting?  
all i did is changed security policy to none in opc server settings - then restarted and gateway does not start. Trying to learn and understand what got broken so badly...

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**Author:** ![hewking32](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5ac83/32.png) [@hewking32](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/hewking32)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 6:36pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/difficult-day-with-ubuntu-today-gateway-does-not-start/70688/5 "2023-03-06T18:36:50Z")

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is there a way to write manually security policy as it was originally or reset to the default settings?

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**Author:** ![hewking32](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5ac83/32.png) [@hewking32](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/hewking32)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2023, 7:22am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/difficult-day-with-ubuntu-today-gateway-does-not-start/70688/6 "2023-03-07T07:22:26Z")

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maybe i can i copy ubuntu internal database to my host machine, then modify opc server security from none to default settings (i assume this broke demo vm and prevents gateway from starting) using kindling internal database viewer  
@paul-griffith does kindling allow modifications of all gateway settings? might try to copy internal db from the gateway backup to fix it - restoring gateway backup would not work as gateway does not start

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**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2023, 3:15pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/difficult-day-with-ubuntu-today-gateway-does-not-start/70688/7 "2023-03-07T15:15:02Z")

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No, Kindling does not currently allow updates back. There are lots of options to manipulate SQLite files available, though.

I would recommend contacting support at this point, personally.

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**Author:** ![hewking32](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5ac83/32.png) [@hewking32](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/hewking32)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2023, 4:04pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/difficult-day-with-ubuntu-today-gateway-does-not-start/70688/8 "2023-03-07T16:04:24Z")

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@paul-griffith  
thanks for reply - i had issue with Demo VM so i would not bother support and just unzip fresh VM but before i do i will be tempted to find a tool to write back to the SQL lite to have last attempt to fix that VM

regarding latest version of the kindling - it triggered some false antivirus alarm and does not allow me to run installer to the end due to my laptop policies,

I tried to install it on the test server 2019 with no antivirus policies but the installer does not even start or trigger anything - do you know if kindling is compatible with windows server 2019?

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**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2023, 4:20pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/difficult-day-with-ubuntu-today-gateway-does-not-start/70688/9 "2023-03-07T16:20:29Z")

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As far as I know it should, but there's no testing infrastructure to check compatibility.

Which download/install are you using? The MSI/EXE downloads directly on the release are self-signed and more likely to trigger AV.

The jdeploy builds: [Download Kindling](https://www.jdeploy.com/gh/paul-griffith/kindling) should be properly signed (and offer auto-updates) which is likely more palatable to your environment.

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**Author:** ![hewking32](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5ac83/32.png) [@hewking32](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/hewking32)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2023, 6:13pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/difficult-day-with-ubuntu-today-gateway-does-not-start/70688/10 "2023-03-07T18:13:32Z")

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@paul-griffith massive thanks for help  
I gave up installing kindling on my laptop with sensitive antivirus (your latest link was also creating alarms same as github version) but i did download it to the linux demo VM and managed to run it ok.

Updating internal database to the original opc ua security policy did not help so I fixed broken VM by reinstalling ignition on it.

Thanks for putting me in the right direction - i am starting to like linux 🙂