# Diffrence in Timezones between a remote tag provider vs where the original remote tag provider resides at?

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**Created:** [April 8, 2023, 12:32am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/diffrence-in-timezones-between-a-remote-tag-provider-vs-where-the-original-remote-tag-provider-resides-at/72203 "2023-04-08T00:32:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lalillo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a6a055/32.png) [@Lalillo1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Lalillo1)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 12:32am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/diffrence-in-timezones-between-a-remote-tag-provider-vs-where-the-original-remote-tag-provider-resides-at/72203/1 "2023-04-08T00:32:03Z")

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Hello, I am creating tags for a tag provider from Gateway\_1  
This tag provider shows the now(1000) time in UTC.

In Gateway\_2, I am using the tag provider from Gateway\_1 as a remote tag provider... however, the tag in the designer from Gateway\_2 shows in my local timezone (pacific time PDT):

Both Gateways, Gateway\_1 and Gateway\_2 are set to UTC time... so I don't understand how can I make them match? I would like to match the remote tags at Gateway\_2 to be the same as Gateway\_1...

How can I correct this?

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/3/9/39e5dcc785dc20f3fbd77cb647eb008e9978f002.png)

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**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 2:34pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/diffrence-in-timezones-between-a-remote-tag-provider-vs-where-the-original-remote-tag-provider-resides-at/72203/2 "2023-04-08T14:34:39Z")

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But they _ **do** _ match. Ignition passes date/time objects around as `java.util.Date` instances. Such are UTC milliseconds under the hood. And are converted to strings for display **at the point of display**.

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**Author:** ![Lalillo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a6a055/32.png) [@Lalillo1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Lalillo1)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 3:09pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/diffrence-in-timezones-between-a-remote-tag-provider-vs-where-the-original-remote-tag-provider-resides-at/72203/3 "2023-04-08T15:09:25Z")

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Hi @pturmel. Thank you. Yes they match. But how can I adust the display in Tag (from the right picture—Gatway\_2) so that it displays as the one on the left ?

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**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 3:26pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/diffrence-in-timezones-between-a-remote-tag-provider-vs-where-the-original-remote-tag-provider-resides-at/72203/4 "2023-04-08T15:26:35Z")

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You control the timezone at the point of display. There are project properties to help you do this.

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**Author:** ![Lalillo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a6a055/32.png) [@Lalillo1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Lalillo1)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 3:31pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/diffrence-in-timezones-between-a-remote-tag-provider-vs-where-the-original-remote-tag-provider-resides-at/72203/5 "2023-04-08T15:31:20Z")

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Yes. I understand that. But what would be the Gateway setting for the tags themselves to be display in the tag browser as PDT if both gateways are cofigured for UTC time? That is what I am really curious.

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**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 3:42pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/diffrence-in-timezones-between-a-remote-tag-provider-vs-where-the-original-remote-tag-provider-resides-at/72203/6 "2023-04-08T15:42:24Z")

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I think the Tag Browser is always going to display these in the timezone of the computer running the Designer.

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**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 3:43pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/diffrence-in-timezones-between-a-remote-tag-provider-vs-where-the-original-remote-tag-provider-resides-at/72203/7 "2023-04-08T15:43:57Z")

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The thing that should matter is what format is used when you use this tag to display a date somewhere in your project. The project and/or perspective time zone settings can influence this, and you can also force a display string by using date format scripting functions or expressions to convert from Date to explicitly formatted string at display time on whatever screen.

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**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 3:46pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/diffrence-in-timezones-between-a-remote-tag-provider-vs-where-the-original-remote-tag-provider-resides-at/72203/8 "2023-04-08T15:46:25Z")

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> [@Lalillo1](#):
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> display in the tag browser

This is in the designer. The designer is showing you "raw" data. You can play games with the designer's time zone, but you shouldn't. You should accept that the raw data represents a point in universal time, not a zoned local time.

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**Author:** ![Lalillo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a6a055/32.png) [@Lalillo1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Lalillo1)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 3:51pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/diffrence-in-timezones-between-a-remote-tag-provider-vs-where-the-original-remote-tag-provider-resides-at/72203/9 "2023-04-08T15:51:00Z")

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Thank you every one. I appreciate the time you took to respond to me. Thank you.
