# Easy Chart Pen Control Delete "X" - how to disable? **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Tags:** vision\ **Created:** [September 4, 2015, 10:44pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/easy-chart-pen-control-delete-x-how-to-disable/10436 "2015-09-04T22:44:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jkelleyus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@jkelleyus](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jkelleyus)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 10:44pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/easy-chart-pen-control-delete-x-how-to-disable/10436/1 "2015-09-04T22:44:20Z")
Folks, this is driving me nuts because I know I've set some attrib somewhere in the easychart pen control that disables (=makes not visible=) the X in a pen control box. How is this done? I want users to be able to turn off pens but not provide an option for the pen to disappear...permanently. It must be my age but memory fails me on this one. Can someone help? Thanks, John ---
**Author:** ![Curlyandshemp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@Curlyandshemp](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Curlyandshemp)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 11:22am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/easy-chart-pen-control-delete-x-how-to-disable/10436/2 "2015-09-08T11:22:13Z")
When you click on the properties of the easy chart, the Dataset for DB Pens, it will be the last column: ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/2X/2/26bd9abacadc93709df9d770565fe36749d6052e.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![jkelleyus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@jkelleyus](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jkelleyus)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 6:19pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/easy-chart-pen-control-delete-x-how-to-disable/10436/3 "2015-09-08T18:19:47Z")
Excellent!! Thank you, sir!! ---
**Author:** ![jkelleyus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@jkelleyus](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jkelleyus)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 3:26pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/easy-chart-pen-control-delete-x-how-to-disable/10436/4 "2019-10-09T15:26:56Z")
I hate to resurrect my own very old thread here…but how is this accomplished in Ignition 8? It appears the Dataset for DB Pens option is missing… Appreciate any assistance! Thanks, John ---
**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 4:21pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/easy-chart-pen-control-delete-x-how-to-disable/10436/5 "2019-10-09T16:21:57Z")
The DB Pens property is still there - do you have the property filter set to something other than ‘Expert’/‘All’? ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/2X/4/46cc8a93b86d93172563e147dcf4354aa4b82667.png) ---
**Author:** ![Zachary\_Sobie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ad7895/32.png) [@Zachary\_Sobie](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Zachary_Sobie)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 3:29pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/easy-chart-pen-control-delete-x-how-to-disable/10436/6 "2024-11-12T15:29:14Z")
How do I use the DB Pens to remove the 'X'? ---
**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 3:33pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/easy-chart-pen-control-delete-x-how-to-disable/10436/7 "2024-11-12T15:33:25Z")
Set the User\_Removable column to False. ---
**Author:** ![Zachary\_Sobie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ad7895/32.png) [@Zachary\_Sobie](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Zachary_Sobie)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 3:46pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/easy-chart-pen-control-delete-x-how-to-disable/10436/8 "2024-11-12T15:46:43Z")
Where is the 'User\_Removable' column? Is this a property of the DB Pens? ---
**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 3:49pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/easy-chart-pen-control-delete-x-how-to-disable/10436/9 "2024-11-12T15:49:42Z")
Yes.