# ENGEL Molding Machines **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Created:** [February 16, 2022, 11:08pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/engel-molding-machines/56233 "2022-02-16T23:08:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sina\_Zadeh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/sina_zadeh/32/31967_2.png) [@Sina\_Zadeh](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Sina_Zadeh)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 11:08pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/engel-molding-machines/56233/1 "2022-02-16T23:08:44Z")
Hi Guys Has Ignition supports ENGEL molding machines? Is there any driver available for ENGEL Machines? ---
**Author:** ![josborn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/4bbf92/32.png) [@josborn](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/josborn)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 12:11am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/engel-molding-machines/56233/2 "2022-02-17T00:11:34Z")
I ran through one of their machine manuals and did not see anything about integration or a protocol that there is an ignition driver for. These are the ignition [drivers](https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC80/OPC+UA+Drivers). You may want to get in touch with ENGEL to see if they have a way to integrate with 3rd party, and what protocols they may have available. Edit: You may be in in luck looks like kepware can integrate with ENGEL with the EUROMAP 63 protocol. [https://www.kepware.com/en-us/products/kepserverex/drivers/euromap-63/](https://www.kepware.com/en-us/products/kepserverex/drivers/euromap-63/) ---
**Author:** ![martinel3746](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martinel3746](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/martinel3746)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2022, 2:14pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/engel-molding-machines/56233/3 "2022-02-18T14:14:25Z")
Our ENGEL machines are connected via Allen Bradley which is included in the basic Ignition license now. ---
**Author:** ![josborn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/4bbf92/32.png) [@josborn](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/josborn)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2022, 5:00pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/engel-molding-machines/56233/4 "2022-02-18T17:00:37Z")
i am a bit confused, are you trying to communicate with the ENGEL machine directly or an Allen Bradly device that is communicating with the ENGEL machine? ---
**Author:** ![Sina\_Zadeh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/sina_zadeh/32/31967_2.png) [@Sina\_Zadeh](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Sina_Zadeh)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 6:34pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/engel-molding-machines/56233/5 "2022-02-20T18:34:01Z")
We haven’t got PLC on our ENGEL machines but if that’s the stretch I can get the PLC connected to the them. I have tried to get some data out from our ENEGEL machine with Kepware and Euromap 63 but I was unsuccessful. The funny thing is Kepware is not asking for an IP address of the machine. We v got 10 machines in out plant and my questions is how Euromap can decide which machine to connect to with no IP indication? 🙂 How did you connect the ENGEL to your Allen Bradley PLC mate? Is that through Kepware and Euromap 63? Do you have a specific gear installed on your ENGEL to communicate with Kepware? Cheers Martin ---
**Author:** ![Sina\_Zadeh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/sina_zadeh/32/31967_2.png) [@Sina\_Zadeh](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Sina_Zadeh)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 6:35pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/engel-molding-machines/56233/6 "2022-02-20T18:35:27Z")
I am trying to talk to ENGEL directly and get data out and see them on Ignition. ---
**Author:** ![josborn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/4bbf92/32.png) [@josborn](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/josborn)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2022, 12:15am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/engel-molding-machines/56233/7 "2022-02-21T00:15:45Z")
I did some additional reading, apparently EUROMAP 63 is text file based and was developed in 2000. There is a section in the kepware setup where you have to specify a file location which i assume is for the text files. EUROMAP 77 came out in 2018, and is OPC UA based. If your machines support EUROMAP 77 I think you would just make an OPC UA connection, but i have no experience in this area. ---
**Author:** ![Sina\_Zadeh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/sina_zadeh/32/31967_2.png) [@Sina\_Zadeh](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Sina_Zadeh)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2022, 12:32am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/engel-molding-machines/56233/8 "2022-02-21T00:32:30Z")
Thanks Jason, I am talking to ENGEL to figure out if the machine is capable of connecting to any OPC UA or which driver supports. I will share my experience here as soon as I figure out how to connect to the machine’s. Cheers in advance ---
**Author:** ![matt.sell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/matt.sell/32/71828_2.png) [@matt.sell](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/matt.sell)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 4:42pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/engel-molding-machines/56233/9 "2022-07-19T16:42:31Z")
Which controller do your Engels use? If CC300, then you can purchase a license from Engel that will expose an OPC-UA interface (Euromap 77/83). If CC100, then we’ve had luck using the “host interface” on the Engel controller. We wrote a Java app that queries the CC100 and publishes data via Sparkplug/MQTT. ---
**Author:** ![Ace\_Tran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@Ace\_Tran](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Ace_Tran)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 2:18am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/engel-molding-machines/56233/10 "2024-04-17T02:18:52Z")
Sir, have you had experience yet about connecting with engel? ---
**Author:** ![matt.sell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/matt.sell/32/71828_2.png) [@matt.sell](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/matt.sell)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 1:44pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/engel-molding-machines/56233/11 "2024-08-08T13:44:45Z")
We have our Engel CC100 and CC300 IMMs connected to Ignition. For the CC100s we're using an in-house developed Java application that publishes metrics using MQTT/Sparkplug B, and for the CC300s direct connection using OPC-UA. Still working on a single CC200-based IMM... ---
**Author:** ![Jordan\_Cota](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3be4f8/32.png) [@Jordan\_Cota](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Jordan_Cota)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 6:42pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/engel-molding-machines/56233/12 "2024-08-19T18:42:36Z")
Hey guys we have two VC 330/120 TECH Engels they are saying these units are only Euromap 63 which I suppose is fine for us monitoring the machines but I am see you all say that these are capable of OPC-UA EM 77? ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Musclow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f14d63/32.png) [@Michael\_Musclow](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Michael_Musclow)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 11:51pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/engel-molding-machines/56233/13 "2025-01-21T23:51:32Z")
The most painless method to connect any Euromap 63 Engel, which includes all controllers, is to use the Engel Server Software. This software is free of charge from the Engel website. Your machines will need the Euromap 63 software installed and configured for this connectivity. The Engel software configures your connectivity between your machine and your server. On the server, you will have flat files which will poll the machine, then return pre-determined parameters and/or functions. The files will send a request for the data, then the data will return in the determined folder in a DAT file. This DAT file can then be injected into Ignition with a script. The CC300 controller has the option for both Euromap 63, or Euromap 77. If you choose Euromap 77, then the connectivity is managed through and OPCUA configuration. Engel only gives instruction for this method with UaExpert. I believe you can see parameter groups in Ignition without UaExpert, but if you want specific parameters, you may need to configure them through UaExpert. Nonetheless, once configured, the parameters will show in Ignition with the rest of the parameters. There has been a couple members on my team who have tried to go through Ignition directly, but they were unsuccessful. If someone finds a way of doing this, please share. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Musclow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f14d63/32.png) [@Michael\_Musclow](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Michael_Musclow)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 11:54pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/engel-molding-machines/56233/14 "2025-01-21T23:54:32Z")
I am curious about your method of connecting your CC100's. Can you share the specifics? Do you know the vintage of your CC100's? Is it connected with ethernet directly, or is it a serial port on the machine control card? ---
**Author:** ![matt.sell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/matt.sell/32/71828_2.png) [@matt.sell](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/matt.sell)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 2:07pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/engel-molding-machines/56233/15 "2025-01-22T14:07:18Z")
For our CC90's and CC100's we're using serial. The machine needs to have the Engel Monitoring System license applied so that it will communicate via a serial port. The protocol is pretty simple, but documentation is all over the place. We've had to piece together information between several online and printed manuals to obtain the group and channel numbers appropriate for the process variables we're monitoring. I can send you some documentation we have on what we've found if you like. Send me a PM and I can export some docs for you. ---
**Author:** ![matt.sell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/matt.sell/32/71828_2.png) [@matt.sell](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/matt.sell)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 2:13pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/engel-molding-machines/56233/16 "2025-01-22T14:13:57Z")
BTW, for our CC300-based IMMs we use OPC-UA and directly connect the Ignition Gateway to the IMM. We just took delivery of a new CC300 IMM with the Euromap license installed at the factory and connection was painless. Well, not completely painless... still had to argue with our IT department to get a static IP address reservation. That was the hard part! ---
**Author:** ![Christopher\_Simpson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Christopher\_Simpson](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Christopher_Simpson)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 8:58pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/engel-molding-machines/56233/17 "2025-01-29T20:58:55Z")
Hey Matt. We have just enabled the Euromap 77 license on our machines, but are getting "BadSecurityChecksFailed" when connecting. We are using both Kepware and UAExpert to test but get the error on both. We saw the press server cert and trusted it, but do we have to trust the client certs on the equipment HMI itself? Or are we missing something else. As you said, documentation is very light. Any help or advice is appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![Christian\_Mayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/christian_mayne/32/73325_2.png) [@Christian\_Mayne](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Christian_Mayne)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2025, 5:18pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/engel-molding-machines/56233/18 "2025-02-19T17:18:15Z")
Is the Engel Server software downloaded from eConnect? ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Musclow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f14d63/32.png) [@Michael\_Musclow](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Michael_Musclow)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2025, 5:54pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/engel-molding-machines/56233/19 "2025-02-19T17:54:12Z")
> **[▷ Technical Documentation Digital Solutions - ENGEL](https://www.engelglobal.com/en/page/techdocs-digitalsolutions)** > > Technical documentation for the start-up of digital solutions from ENGEL ✓ Step-by-step instructions ✓ Initial tips for usage and more ➠ Learn more! Scroll down to Euromap63 and expand the options Under Technical Recommendation Download Euromap 63 server module ---
**Author:** ![Christian\_Mayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/christian_mayne/32/73325_2.png) [@Christian\_Mayne](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Christian_Mayne)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2025, 2:04pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/engel-molding-machines/56233/20 "2025-03-05T14:04:49Z")
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