# Error saving window, and font issue -v8.1.21 **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Tags:** vision, ignition81\ **Created:** [July 13, 2023, 6:23pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/error-saving-window-and-font-issue-v8-1-21/76344 "2023-07-13T18:23:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Brody\_Zack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cc9497/32.png) [@Brody\_Zack](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Brody_Zack)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 6:23pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/error-saving-window-and-font-issue-v8-1-21/76344/1 "2023-07-13T18:23:41Z")
I have a window that I'm trying to edit but it shows this error when saving even when there are no changes: ```auto com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.SerializationException: Error during serialization for property 'interactionController' on object '[FPMIWindow]Recipe Manager' at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.serializeProperties(DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.java:307) at com.inductiveautomation.factorypmi.designer.xmlserialization.WindowDelegate.serialize(WindowDelegate.java:34) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.XMLSerializationContext.serialize(XMLSerializationContext.java:49) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.XMLSerializer.serialize(XMLSerializer.java:525) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.XMLSerializer.serializeBinary(XMLSerializer.java:507) at com.inductiveautomation.factorypmi.designer.workspace.WindowWorkspace.saveContainer(WindowWorkspace.java:1823) at com.inductiveautomation.factorypmi.designer.workspace.WindowWorkspace.commitDesignable(WindowWorkspace.java:1539) at com.inductiveautomation.factorypmi.designer.workspace.WindowWorkspace.commitAll(WindowWorkspace.java:1096) at com.inductiveautomation.factorypmi.designer.model.VisionDesignerImpl.notifyProjectSaveStart(VisionDesignerImpl.java:588) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.designer.IgnitionDesigner.commitAll(IgnitionDesigner.java:1593) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.designer.IgnitionDesigner.handleSave(IgnitionDesigner.java:1358) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.designer.IgnitionDesigner$Handler.handleSaveAction(IgnitionDesigner.java:2787) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.designer.IgnitionDesigner$Handler$5.actionPerformed(IgnitionDesigner.java:2367) at java.desktop/javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/javax.swing.AbstractButton$Handler.actionPerformed(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.fireActionPerformed(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.setPressed(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicButtonListener.mouseReleased(Unknown Source) at com.jidesoft.plaf.basic.BasicJideButtonListener.mouseReleased(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.AWTEventMulticaster.mouseReleased(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.Component.processEvent(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.Container.processEvent(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventQueue$4.run(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventQueue$4.run(Unknown Source) at java.base/java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.base/java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersectionPrivilege(Unknown Source) at java.base/java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersectionPrivilege(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventQueue$5.run(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventQueue$5.run(Unknown Source) at java.base/java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.base/java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersectionPrivilege(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source) at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source) Caused by: com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.SerializationException: Error during serialization for property 'generalAdapters' on object '[DefaultInteractionController]com.inductiveautomation.factorypmi.application.binding.DefaultInteractionController@3c5662ba' at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.serializeProperties(DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.java:307) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.serialize(DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.java:334) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.XMLSerializationContext.serialize(XMLSerializationContext.java:49) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.writeCall(DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.java:240) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.writeCall(DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.java:227) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.doProperty(DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.java:284) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.serializeProperties(DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.java:305) ... 49 more Caused by: com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.SerializationException: Error during serialization for property 'font' on object '[PMIButton]PMIButton: Export' at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.serializeProperties(DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.java:307) at com.inductiveautomation.factorypmi.designer.xmlserialization.DefaultComponentDelegate.serializeProperties(DefaultComponentDelegate.java:112) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.serialize(DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.java:334) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.XMLSerializationContext.serialize(XMLSerializationContext.java:49) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.writeCall(DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.java:240) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.writeCall(DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.java:227) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.delegates.MapDelegate.serializeElements(MapDelegate.java:43) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.delegates.MapDelegate.serialize(MapDelegate.java:33) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.XMLSerializationContext.serialize(XMLSerializationContext.java:49) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.writeCall(DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.java:240) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.writeCall(DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.java:227) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.doProperty(DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.java:284) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.serializeProperties(DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.java:305) ... 55 more Caused by: com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.SerializationException: Unable to create clean copy of class de.javasoft.plaf.synthetica.ScalableFont at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.XMLSerializer.getCleanCopy(XMLSerializer.java:591) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.XMLSerializationContext.getCleanCopy(XMLSerializationContext.java:71) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.serializeProperties(DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.java:297) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.serialize(DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.java:334) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.XMLSerializationContext.serialize(XMLSerializationContext.java:49) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.writeCall(DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.java:240) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.writeCall(DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.java:227) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.doProperty(DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.java:284) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.serialization.DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.serializeProperties(DefaultObjectSerializationDelegate.java:305) ... 67 more ``` It is still able to save with this error but when i add a button it pops a similar error and wont save the changes. A way I got it to save with the button and no errors is to change all components font to "dialoginput". Does anyone have any information on this or have had a similar issue? I would like to know why it happens and if there is a fix. ---
**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 9:13pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/error-saving-window-and-font-issue-v8-1-21/76344/2 "2023-07-13T21:13:08Z")
Can you send a gateway/project backup that reproduces this issue in to our support department? ---
**Author:** ![nminchin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/nminchin/32/6911_2.png) [@nminchin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nminchin)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 10:15pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/error-saving-window-and-font-issue-v8-1-21/76344/3 "2023-07-13T22:15:18Z")
I saw this issue as well. I upgraded from 7.9.somethingold to 8.1.28, and _almost every single component with a font_ had its Dialog font replaced by that synthetica one, and it meant I could no longer save my windows if I made changes. I, as you said, had to simply edit the font and press OK. Note: my fonts in components still _showed as Dialog_, but if I probed them via script, I saw they were actually the synthetica object. I ended up having to write a script to traverse all components on the page and convert them to the Dialog font, as there were _far_ too many places to fix this in. Interestingly, if I dragged on a new component, it too was affected... I have a feeling this will affect development going forward. I should probably raise a support case > [@SerializationException: Error during serialization for property](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/serializationexception-error-during-serialization-for-property/65220/6): > > v8.1.28 I'm getting the same error Unable to create clean copy of class de.javasoft.plaf.synthetica.ScalableFont I'm not using any fonts other than the mapped "Dialog" font confused I did enable the "Use Condensed Font" after upgrading, maybe this is it?? I turned it off and re-opened my project in Designer, created a new Vision Window and added a Label, saved, and I STILL get the error?? com.inductiveautomation.ignition.common.xmlserialization.SerializationException: Error during serializ… ---
**Author:** ![Brody\_Zack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cc9497/32.png) [@Brody\_Zack](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Brody_Zack)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 12:32pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/error-saving-window-and-font-issue-v8-1-21/76344/4 "2023-07-14T12:32:05Z")
Thanks for the reply, I saw your post when researching the error. I'll try using the script to convert my components. The project I'm working on is massive, so I hope we get a more permanent solution soon. ---
**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 2:32pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/error-saving-window-and-font-issue-v8-1-21/76344/5 "2023-07-14T14:32:22Z")
Guys, you're killing me. You gotta get this stuff in to support so I can _actually fix it_. Proceed with workarounds as you will, but give me a chance to fix it too! ---
**Author:** ![nminchin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/nminchin/32/6911_2.png) [@nminchin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nminchin)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 11:27pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/error-saving-window-and-font-issue-v8-1-21/76344/6 "2023-07-14T23:27:34Z")
But can't you just fix it now, without anything to go off of? 😄 I'll get you/support a backup of my project early next week!