# \[Feature-230\]Hidden Tooltip on Perspective Text or Numeric Entry Field **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Tags:** perspective\ **Created:** [May 15, 2021, 3:08pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/feature-230-hidden-tooltip-on-perspective-text-or-numeric-entry-field/46740 "2021-05-15T15:08:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![garnet.tozer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@garnet.tozer](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/garnet.tozer)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2021, 3:08pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/feature-230-hidden-tooltip-on-perspective-text-or-numeric-entry-field/46740/1 "2021-05-15T15:08:39Z")
Good morning, I’ve got a modal popup created in perspective with a numeric entry field. I’ve configured a tooltip to show the acceptible numeric limits, however the tooltip appears below the modal box and is basically useless. Any way to get that tooltip to be in the foreground,vs. hidden behind the popup? I’ve tried a text entry field with a similar result. ---
**Author:** ![matthew.ayre](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/matthew.ayre/32/19499_2.png) [@matthew.ayre](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/matthew.ayre)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 7:11am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/feature-230-hidden-tooltip-on-perspective-text-or-numeric-entry-field/46740/2 "2021-05-17T07:11:04Z")
Welcome @garnet.tozer, is your tooltip a popup as well? If so, you might be able to create your tooltip via CSS which may produce better results. Although I have not tried this myself so I don’t know for sure (just spit-balling ideas). I might try this later if I get the chance 😃 ---
**Author:** ![garnet.tozer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@garnet.tozer](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/garnet.tozer)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 3:05pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/feature-230-hidden-tooltip-on-perspective-text-or-numeric-entry-field/46740/3 "2021-05-24T15:05:37Z")
I am using a numeric entry field on a perspective popup. I’ve entered values into the maximum and minimum input bounds fields, and then created a linked tooltip text field to display the upper and lower bounds. That tooltip text stays behind the popup perspective view. It’s not particularly useful hiding behind the scenes! I’ve not gone the CSS route yet - still new to that. ---
**Author:** ![wking](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/wking/32/21823_2.png) [@wking](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/wking)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 3:47pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/feature-230-hidden-tooltip-on-perspective-text-or-numeric-entry-field/46740/4 "2021-05-24T15:47:23Z")
I've reported this a couple times. As well as them loosing focus. I figured it'd be a bigger issue in the community. Calling a lot of pop ups that utilize these components for form submittal would seem to me a really common use case. Idk > [@Numeric entry auto lose focus popup Google Chrome. Not Edge or Firefox](http://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/numeric-entry-auto-lose-focus-popup-google-chrome-not-edge-or-firefox/40906/2): > > Not just pop ups [ezgif-2-aea9a03f2697] ---
**Author:** ![wking](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/wking/32/21823_2.png) [@wking](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/wking)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 3:48pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/feature-230-hidden-tooltip-on-perspective-text-or-numeric-entry-field/46740/5 "2021-05-24T15:48:30Z")
Any clue what it would take to do this CSS tooltip in perspective? Sounds like something I could use!! ---
**Author:** ![cmallonee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/cmallonee/32/6416_2.png) [@cmallonee](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/cmallonee)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 4:05pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/feature-230-hidden-tooltip-on-perspective-text-or-numeric-entry-field/46740/6 "2021-05-24T16:05:13Z")
I have good news and bad news. Bad news: Short of a potential CSS workaround (which I don’t personally know how @matthew.ayre intends to manage) there is not a way to get these tooltips to display in front of the popup _at this time_. Good news: We’re actually overhauling how tooltips are managed in Perspective, so that _any_ component can display a tooltip. As part of this overhaul we are auditing aspects like z-index so that tooltips don’t get hidden behind popups/modals/docked views and the like. This overhaul is still in development and while it could potentially make 8.1.7 I would not expect it until 8.1.8. I’m going to link this thread to the Tooltip work currently in development so that we can update this thread when the content is available. ---
**Author:** ![garnet.tozer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@garnet.tozer](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/garnet.tozer)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 4:33pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/feature-230-hidden-tooltip-on-perspective-text-or-numeric-entry-field/46740/7 "2021-05-24T16:33:20Z")
Thanks much! ---
**Author:** ![matthew.ayre](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/matthew.ayre/32/19499_2.png) [@matthew.ayre](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/matthew.ayre)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 1:40pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/feature-230-hidden-tooltip-on-perspective-text-or-numeric-entry-field/46740/8 "2021-06-01T13:40:49Z")
Just to close the loop @cmallonee, I finally had a chance to experiment. I was thinking you could possibly override the z-index via theming. However, I am guessing this style gets set further down the CSS chain, as my experimentation failed miserably 😅 There are examples of creating tooltips in CSS that use data- attributes to pass the relevant information. I couldn’t think of a graceful way of implementing this in Ignition (although I did think of some very ungraceful ways of doing it, but I didn’t test them because they were very convoluted, even for me 😆) @garnet.tozer I have had success at implementing tooltips by using mouseover or click events and creating a specific tooltip View which is displayed as a modal popup (this has the same z-index as other modal popups). But it can be a bit cumbersome to manage and unreliable. ---
**Author:** ![franklepkowski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/franklepkowski/32/4808_2.png) [@franklepkowski](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/franklepkowski)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/feature-230-hidden-tooltip-on-perspective-text-or-numeric-entry-field/46740/9 "2021-07-16T14:13:34Z")
Is this issue resolved in the 8.1.7 release? Thanks, Frank ---
**Author:** ![cmallonee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/cmallonee/32/6416_2.png) [@cmallonee](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/cmallonee)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2021, 2:19pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/feature-230-hidden-tooltip-on-perspective-text-or-numeric-entry-field/46740/10 "2021-07-16T14:19:05Z")
No, this issue will not be resolved until the 8.1.10 release. #Edit: updated to reflect the 8.1.9 emergency release. ---
**Author:** ![Steve.Perry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@Steve.Perry](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Steve.Perry)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2021, 1:28pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/feature-230-hidden-tooltip-on-perspective-text-or-numeric-entry-field/46740/11 "2021-08-09T13:28:07Z")
Hello. Now that 8.1.9 is here, are tooltips easy to implement in Perspective? If so, where can I find an example? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![witman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d2c977/32.png) [@witman](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/witman)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2021, 1:52pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/feature-230-hidden-tooltip-on-perspective-text-or-numeric-entry-field/46740/12 "2021-08-09T13:52:05Z")
> [@New Feature: Perspective Tooltips](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/new-feature-perspective-tooltips/49630): > > I’m happy to announce that tooltips are now available for every Perspective component as of the August 5th nightly build. You can find the configuration properties for this feature in the meta category of each component. [ezgif-4-41862bbf1f65] Some important properties: enabled: Controls whether the tooltip will be displayed on hover or if requested via scripting. delay: How long to delay before displaying the tooltip after hover begins or after a scripting request. sustain: How long to d… ---
**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2021, 1:53pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/feature-230-hidden-tooltip-on-perspective-text-or-numeric-entry-field/46740/13 "2021-08-09T13:53:24Z")
8.1.9 is an emergency re-release of 8.1.8 with a single bugfix. So everything promised for 8.1.9 will now be in 8.1.10. ---
**Author:** ![Steve.Perry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@Steve.Perry](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Steve.Perry)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2021, 1:54pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/feature-230-hidden-tooltip-on-perspective-text-or-numeric-entry-field/46740/14 "2021-08-09T13:54:04Z")
AWESOME! Thank you!