# Gateway backup system tags

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/gateway-backup-system-tags/43065>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Created:** [February 5, 2021, 1:13pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/gateway-backup-system-tags/43065 "2021-02-05T13:13:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![r.lebohec](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/r.lebohec/32/3704_2.png) [@r.lebohec](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/r.lebohec)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 1:13pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/gateway-backup-system-tags/43065/1 "2021-02-05T13:13:31Z")

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Hi @Kevin.Herron,

On version 8.0.17 of ignition, we noticed that the ‘System’ tags were no longer refreshed. Indeed on version 7.9, it was possible to diagnose the state of the passive server (database connection, opc connection, devices connection …) before switching to it.

Any suggestions ore workaround?

Thanks

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**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 1:27pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/gateway-backup-system-tags/43065/2 "2021-02-05T13:27:50Z")

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Funny, I was just looking at this last week.

I don’t have a workaround to suggest because it seems not processing value changes on the backup was a conscious decision when the tag system was redesigned for 8.0.

But… I did make a small change that allows value changes to be processed for tags from managed tag providers, which includes System tags, and we’re going to be evaluating whether we can actually release this change or if the original design and documentation in the code is there for good reason.

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**Author:** ![r.lebohec](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/r.lebohec/32/3704_2.png) [@r.lebohec](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/r.lebohec)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 1:47pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/gateway-backup-system-tags/43065/3 "2021-02-05T13:47:53Z")

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Thanks @Kevin.Herron,  
It would be really appreciated if we could do at least the same as the statuses available via the web page of the gateway backup.

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**Author:** ![r.lebohec](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/r.lebohec/32/3704_2.png) [@r.lebohec](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/r.lebohec)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2021, 1:29pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/gateway-backup-system-tags/43065/4 "2021-02-25T13:29:30Z")

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I am coming to the news regarding this subject @Kevin.Herron … Can your modification on the value changes of the System provider be possible as it worked in 7.9?

Otherwise, would it be possible via the “system.net.httpClient” function to authenticate to the gateway backup (I’m stuck on this point) and to make a GET request "[http://XXX.XXX](http://XXX.XXX). XXX.XXX:8088/data/status/opc/ ",  
“[http://XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:8088/data/status/databases](http://XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:8088/data/status/databases)” …?

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**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2021, 1:34pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/gateway-backup-system-tags/43065/5 "2021-02-25T13:34:58Z")

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Another attempt at supporting this will be going into QA soon. Can’t promise it will work out and anything involving redundancy takes longer to test so I’m not sure when it will be available if it does.

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**Author:** ![r.lebohec](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/r.lebohec/32/3704_2.png) [@r.lebohec](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/r.lebohec)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2021, 1:37pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/gateway-backup-system-tags/43065/6 "2021-02-25T13:37:06Z")

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Thank you for the clarification
