# Gateway long time to get started **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Tags:** ignition81\ **Created:** [February 16, 2024, 1:19pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/gateway-long-time-to-get-started/85831 "2024-02-16T13:19:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![pgmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d07c76/32.png) [@pgmo](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pgmo)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 1:19pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/gateway-long-time-to-get-started/85831/1 "2024-02-16T13:19:42Z")
Hi all, I'm experiencing a very long time for Ignition to get started, **about 6 minutes**. As far as I can understand, what is slowing down the system are the _DisplayPath_ and _Priority_ fields of some alarms, where I have to use the `lookup` instruction, e.g. `lookup({[.]../Config/AlmPriorities},{name},0,'almName','prio')` in the _Priority field_ and `concat(lookup({[~]Setup/SourcesInPos},31,'','SourceID','Pos'),lookup({[~]Setup/SourcesInPos},32,'','SourceID','Pos'),translate('MPS3 - Blocked'))` in the _DisplayPath_ field. (_AlmPriorities_ and _SourcesInPos_ are Gateway Memory tags of type `dataset`) I'm on Ignition 8.1.36, but I'm quite sure that that same logic did not cause any harm some versions ago . Any suggestion? Thanks in advance, regards ---
**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 3:14pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/gateway-long-time-to-get-started/85831/2 "2024-02-16T15:14:17Z")
> [@pgmo](#): > > As far as I can understand, what is slowing down the system What lead you to that conclusion? Are you already working with our support department? What exactly takes six minutes - is that the time the gateway displays in it's "the gateway started successfully" log message? ---
**Author:** ![pgmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d07c76/32.png) [@pgmo](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pgmo)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 3:44pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/gateway-long-time-to-get-started/85831/3 "2024-02-16T15:44:54Z")
Hi @paul-griffith and thanks for your reply. > [@paul-griffith](#): > > What lead you to that conclusion? If I set static values for those properties, the gateway starts correctly > [@paul-griffith](#): > > What exactly takes six minutes - is that the time the gateway displays in it's "the gateway started successfully" log message Yes, that's it. More over if you try to start a Designer session, you cannot until the end of that 6 minutes wait. A collegue of mine remembers that gateway starting up was running smoothly until version **8.1.33** Thanks, regards ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 3:47pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/gateway-long-time-to-get-started/85831/4 "2024-02-16T15:47:04Z")
Can you use `jstack` to take some thread dumps during the gateway startup? ---
**Author:** ![pgmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d07c76/32.png) [@pgmo](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pgmo)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 4:06pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/gateway-long-time-to-get-started/85831/5 "2024-02-16T16:06:56Z")
> [@Kevin.Herron](#): > > Can you use `jstack` Thanks for your suggestion! How can I use `jstack`? - my development environment is based on docker. Thanks, regards ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 4:12pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/gateway-long-time-to-get-started/85831/6 "2024-02-16T16:12:50Z")
Hmm, not sure then. I don't think we include `jstack` with the embedded Java runtime either. You'll have to restore the backup into a Gateway running in a normal environment, with a separate JDK installed so you have access to `jstack`. Otherwise you can run it through support and provide them with a backup or something. ---
**Author:** ![pgmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d07c76/32.png) [@pgmo](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pgmo)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 4:19pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/gateway-long-time-to-get-started/85831/7 "2024-02-16T16:19:33Z")
Thanks @Kevin.Herron I'll ask my customer if he lets me hand a project backup over to Inductive's support.