# Hi DPI monitor scale in desinger **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Created:** [September 5, 2018, 12:54pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/hi-dpi-monitor-scale-in-desinger/19542 "2018-09-05T12:54:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![nader.chinichian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/nader.chinichian/32/9261_2.png) [@nader.chinichian](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nader.chinichian)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 12:54pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/hi-dpi-monitor-scale-in-desinger/19542/1 "2018-09-05T12:54:05Z")
Hi in 4k monitor the designer shows really tiny and couldn’t see the icon. What is the solution to force designer use windows scale setting? ```auto ``` ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 12:58pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/hi-dpi-monitor-scale-in-desinger/19542/2 "2018-09-05T12:58:49Z")
You can find some workarounds searching the forums: [Scaling Ignition's designer](http://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/scaling-ignitions-designer/11738) Or you can just use Java 9, which has support for high DPI screens. You’ll need to be on a very recent version of Ignition for this to be an option. ---
**Author:** ![zxcslo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/zxcslo/32/61610_2.png) [@zxcslo](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/zxcslo)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 4:12pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/hi-dpi-monitor-scale-in-desinger/19542/3 "2018-09-05T16:12:25Z")
> [@Kevin.Herron](#): > > Or you can just use Java 9, which has support for high DPI screens. You'll need to be on a very recent version of Ignition for this to be an option. I'm on Java 10 and Ignition 7.9.9 and I don't see any difference...🤔 Is there something to be set for this to work? ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 4:17pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/hi-dpi-monitor-scale-in-desinger/19542/4 "2018-09-05T16:17:50Z")
> [@zxcslo](#): > > I'm on Java 10 and Ignition 7.9.9 and I don't see any difference...🤔Is there something to be set for this to work? What OS are you using? ---
**Author:** ![zxcslo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/zxcslo/32/61610_2.png) [@zxcslo](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/zxcslo)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 4:19pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/hi-dpi-monitor-scale-in-desinger/19542/5 "2018-09-05T16:19:00Z")
> [@Kevin.Herron](#): > > What OS are you using? Win7 and Win10 (Virtual). ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 4:20pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/hi-dpi-monitor-scale-in-desinger/19542/6 "2018-09-05T16:20:20Z")
Should “just work”, at least on Win10. I don’t know if being virtualized means the DPI/resolution is different/wrong. Might also require launching via the Native Launcher instead of JNLPs. ---
**Author:** ![zxcslo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/zxcslo/32/61610_2.png) [@zxcslo](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/zxcslo)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 4:26pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/hi-dpi-monitor-scale-in-desinger/19542/7 "2018-09-05T16:26:04Z")
I changed the DPI scaling in Windows 7 to 125%. Then I launched the designer with Native Launcher. It seems bigger (the icon and some texts) but it’s also very blurry, it’s almost unusable…🙂 The same with Win10. So this work only if you have DPI in Windows set to higher than 100%…? ---
**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 4:27pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/hi-dpi-monitor-scale-in-desinger/19542/8 "2018-09-05T16:27:43Z")
Java 10 is also not supported in 7.9 - try with Java 9 (I think some of the reason we don’t support 10 is visual problems). ---
**Author:** ![zxcslo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/zxcslo/32/61610_2.png) [@zxcslo](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/zxcslo)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 4:29pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/hi-dpi-monitor-scale-in-desinger/19542/9 "2018-09-05T16:29:37Z")
Where can I download Java 9? ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 4:30pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/hi-dpi-monitor-scale-in-desinger/19542/10 "2018-09-05T16:30:50Z")
> [@zxcslo](#): > > So this work only if you have DPI in Windows set to higher than 100%...? Yes... if you ask for 100% DPI on a high res/DPI screen you get something small to very small (depending on the screen size). This is how scaling works in all apps/toolkits. ---
**Author:** ![zxcslo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/zxcslo/32/61610_2.png) [@zxcslo](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/zxcslo)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 4:47pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/hi-dpi-monitor-scale-in-desinger/19542/11 "2018-09-05T16:47:02Z")
I found Java JRE 9.0.4 download. But it’s no different than Java 10. Can we expect that this will work as it should in Ignition 8? ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/hi-dpi-monitor-scale-in-desinger/19542/12 "2018-09-05T16:57:52Z")
> [@zxcslo](#): > > Can we expect that this will work as it should in Ignition 8? It's currently working as it should. If you don't change your DPI to something above 100% you shouldn't expect anything but a small UI (on a high DPI screen). I'm not sure why you're experiencing blurry UI above 100% - probably something to do with being in a VM. You might need to configure VMWare or whatever you're using to give the OS running in the VM the full resolution of your monitor before changing your DPI.