# How to terminate frozen designer in windows?

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/how-to-terminate-frozen-designer-in-windows/54257>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Tags:** ignition80\
**Created:** [December 17, 2021, 6:03pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/how-to-terminate-frozen-designer-in-windows/54257 "2021-12-17T18:03:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![qle303](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/dc4da7/32.png) [@qle303](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/qle303)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 6:03pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/how-to-terminate-frozen-designer-in-windows/54257/1 "2021-12-17T18:03:50Z")

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I am using Ignition 8.1.10. on Windows 10 from the standalone ignition zip. I put the “{PathToTag}” into the “Read Expression” on derived tag. It crashes the designer. I tried finding anything related to java in the task manager to stop it but to no avail. I stopped the Ignition, but still cannot close the designer applet. Anyone encounter this bug? Thanks.

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**Author:** ![jlandwerlen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@jlandwerlen](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jlandwerlen)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 9:45pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/how-to-terminate-frozen-designer-in-windows/54257/2 "2021-12-17T21:45:27Z")

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Can you disable the tag?

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**Author:** ![Transistor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/transistor/32/3380_2.png) [@Transistor](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Transistor)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 10:20pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/how-to-terminate-frozen-designer-in-windows/54257/3 "2021-12-17T22:20:19Z")

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Can you edit your question title to give a clue to a search engine reader what the issue actually is? I’ll delete this comment later. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![qle303](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/dc4da7/32.png) [@qle303](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/qle303)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 11:38pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/how-to-terminate-frozen-designer-in-windows/54257/4 "2021-12-17T23:38:48Z")

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Solution: I rebooted the computer. Restarted Ignition again and delete the tag. However, for future, how do you stop a frozen designer in Windows without rebooting the computer? What is the name under the task manager?

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**Author:** ![witman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d2c977/32.png) [@witman](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/witman)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2021, 12:46am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/how-to-terminate-frozen-designer-in-windows/54257/5 "2021-12-18T00:46:09Z")

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I haven’t had to do this for a long time, but did often in the past. It’ll look something like this, though it can be hard to tell which designer you’re killing if you have multiple open:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/e/0/e0e572668b1668947ebffa04ff091f6d9675507e.png)