# I cant see perspective tab in version 8.1.36 **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Tags:** perspective, vision\ **Created:** [January 23, 2024, 12:49pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/i-cant-see-perspective-tab-in-version-8-1-36/84635 "2024-01-23T12:49:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Anita.Shinde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@Anita.Shinde](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Anita.Shinde)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 12:49pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/i-cant-see-perspective-tab-in-version-8-1-36/84635/1 "2024-01-23T12:49:08Z")
Hi, Today I installed Ignition version 8.1.36, I want to design some perspective views in that, But I am unable to find vision tab there. What's wrong here Can you please help me? I can see only vision tab. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/8/5/85fb9797ec3d05491f4d28c3a26f6a161611e419.png) ---
**Author:** ![dkhayes117](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/dkhayes117/32/68344_2.png) [@dkhayes117](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dkhayes117)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 12:56pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/i-cant-see-perspective-tab-in-version-8-1-36/84635/2 "2024-01-23T12:56:03Z")
You probably didn't install the Perspective module. ---
**Author:** ![Anita.Shinde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@Anita.Shinde](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Anita.Shinde)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 1:01pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/i-cant-see-perspective-tab-in-version-8-1-36/84635/3 "2024-01-23T13:01:42Z")
It is installed. Under Config\>\>Modules it is showing perspective running ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/8/3/8394b66b9f923f2b766540dfdde192de952537de.png) ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 1:06pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/i-cant-see-perspective-tab-in-version-8-1-36/84635/4 "2024-01-23T13:06:13Z")
Are there any errors in the Designer console/logs? Maybe it failed to start up. ---
**Author:** ![Anita.Shinde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@Anita.Shinde](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Anita.Shinde)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 2:10pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/i-cant-see-perspective-tab-in-version-8-1-36/84635/5 "2024-01-23T14:10:13Z")
getting below error while launching the designer BrowserEngine crashed. Exceeded crash count, will not reload. crash count: 3 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/2/0/20b46e3bbf272e8772c22686e5f790b7676a12ee.png) ---
**Author:** ![KathyApplebaum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kathyapplebaum/32/7261_2.png) [@KathyApplebaum](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/KathyApplebaum)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 4:29pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/i-cant-see-perspective-tab-in-version-8-1-36/84635/6 "2024-01-23T16:29:49Z")
Can you go to the Details tab, copy the full text and paste it in a reply? ---
**Author:** ![Anita.Shinde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@Anita.Shinde](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Anita.Shinde)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 5:51pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/i-cant-see-perspective-tab-in-version-8-1-36/84635/7 "2024-01-23T17:51:15Z")
23:15:05.670 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Downloading... [+0] 23:15:14.229 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Cleanup... [+8559] 23:15:14.309 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Initializing UI... [+8639] 23:15:15.081 [Designer-Startup] INFO tags.manager.gwinterface - Tag poll rate changed to 250 ms 23:15:15.082 [DesignerExecEngine-1] INFO tags.subscriptions - Changing connected quality to 'Good' 23:15:22.261 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Starting module: Vision [+16591] 23:15:27.529 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Starting module: Perspective [+21859] 23:15:31.410 [Designer-Startup] INFO Perspective.Designer - Starting up Perspective module. Mode: Trial 23:16:18.664 [Designer-Startup] ERROR designer.JXBrowserUtil - Failed to start Browser Engine with options com.teamdev.jxbrowser.engine.EngineOptions: autoplayEnabled: false chromiumDir: C:\Users\Nitesh Tambe.ignition\cache\resources\jxbrowser\7.35.1 chromiumSwitches: diskCacheSize: fileAccessFromFilesAllowed: false isGpuDisabled: false isIncognitoEnabled:false language:en-us passwordStore: remoteDebugginPort: 9222 renderingMode: OFF\_SCREEN isSandboxDisabled: false secureOriginWhitelist: isTouchMenuEnabled: false userAgent: userDataDir:C:\Users\NITESH~1\AppData\Local\Temp\JxBrowser-UserData-22def9f5-ebc5-4982-ba55-85716d6f2fff webSecurityDisabled: false . com.teamdev.jxbrowser.engine.ChromiumProcessStartupFailureException: Process exit code: 7 at com.teamdev.jxbrowser.engine.internal.EngineImpl.newInstance(EngineImpl.java:218) at com.teamdev.jxbrowser.engine.Engine.newInstance(Engine.java:163) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.client.util.JxBrowserUtil.lambda$getOrCreateEngine$2(JxBrowserUtil.java:347) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.client.util.JxBrowserUtil.runResourceLockedAction(JxBrowserUtil.java:553) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.client.util.JxBrowserUtil.getOrCreateEngine(JxBrowserUtil.java:347) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.client.util.JxBrowserUtil.getOrCreateEngine(JxBrowserUtil.java:406) at com.inductiveautomation.perspective.designer.DesignerHook.startup(DesignerHook.java:226) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.designer.IgnitionDesigner$LoadedModule.startup(IgnitionDesigner.java:1995) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.designer.IgnitionDesigner.startupModule(IgnitionDesigner.java:1203) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.designer.IgnitionDesigner.loadProject(IgnitionDesigner.java:999) at com.inductiveautomation.ignition.designer.IgnitionDesigner$StartupProjectDialogHandler.lambda$new$2(IgnitionDesigner.java:2059) at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source) 23:16:19.061 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Starting module: SFC [+73391] 23:16:21.964 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Starting module: SQL Bridge [+76294] 23:16:22.524 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Starting module: Serial Support Client [+76854] 23:16:22.529 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Starting module: OpcCom [+76859] 23:16:22.530 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Starting module: Reporting [+76860] 23:16:22.726 [Designer-Startup] INFO reporting.Designer - Starting up Reporting Module. Mode: Trial 23:16:23.740 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Starting module: Symbol Factory [+78070] 23:16:23.760 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Starting module: WebDev [+78090] 23:16:23.820 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Starting module: Alarm Notification [+78150] 23:16:24.004 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Starting module: OPC-UA [+78334] 23:16:24.004 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Starting module: Enterprise Administration [+78334] 23:16:24.014 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Starting module: Legacy DNP3 Driver [+78344] 23:16:24.014 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Initializing Scripting... [+78344] 23:16:24.471 [Designer-Startup] INFO designer.main - Initializing UI... [+78800] ---
**Author:** ![jcoffman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/jcoffman/32/6429_2.png) [@jcoffman](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jcoffman)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 11:49pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/i-cant-see-perspective-tab-in-version-8-1-36/84635/8 "2024-01-24T23:49:29Z")
so based on this it looks like the chromium process couldn't be started. What version of windows are you on? if its relatively new, can you try clearing it out of the cache for me and re-launching the designer? 1. close the designer 2. delete the JXBrowser cache folder: `C:\Users\Nitesh Tambe\.ignition\cache\resources\jxbrowser\7.35.1` 3. relaunch the designer If this doesn't resolve your issue, do you have an IT restrictions on this machine which might prevent chromium.exe from running? ---
**Author:** ![jcoffman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/jcoffman/32/6429_2.png) [@jcoffman](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jcoffman)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 11:58pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/i-cant-see-perspective-tab-in-version-8-1-36/84635/9 "2024-01-24T23:58:45Z")
It should be noted that [8.1.35 dropped support for windows 7 and windows 8](https://inductiveautomation.com/downloads/releasenotes/8.1.35) for Perspective Designer and the Vision Web Browser Module ---
**Author:** ![Anita.Shinde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@Anita.Shinde](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Anita.Shinde)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 2:33am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/i-cant-see-perspective-tab-in-version-8-1-36/84635/10 "2024-01-25T02:33:19Z")
yes, windows 8 not supporting, that was the issue. Thank you.