# \[IGN-13209\] 8.3 Identity Provider doesn't allow badge authentication without badge secret

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ign-13209-8-3-identity-provider-doesnt-allow-badge-authentication-without-badge-secret/109588>\
**Category:** Ignition 8.3 Early Access\
**Tags:** security\
**Created:** [August 11, 2025, 2:39pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ign-13209-8-3-identity-provider-doesnt-allow-badge-authentication-without-badge-secret/109588 "2025-08-11T14:39:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![matthew.ayre](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/matthew.ayre/32/19499_2.png) [@matthew.ayre](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/matthew.ayre)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 2:39pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ign-13209-8-3-identity-provider-doesnt-allow-badge-authentication-without-badge-secret/109588/1 "2025-08-11T14:39:08Z")

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When enabling the ‘Badge’ authentication method without enabling the ‘Badge Secret’ we get the following error.

> **Error**
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> ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/1/2/12fef8978a92d5270a6d51c8e1d1c9ced3405aa5.png)

Note: If you enable the ‘Badge Secret’, save the changes, edit the IdP again, then deselect ‘Badge Secret‘ (without deselecting the ‘Badge‘ authentication method), it appears to save without error.

Note 2: This can be replicated for an existing IdP by deselecting the ‘Badge‘ authentication method, saving the changes, editing the IdP again, and then enabling the ‘Badge‘ authentication method again without enabling the ‘Badge Secret’.

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**Author:** ![jdahlinger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/jdahlinger/32/15735_2.png) [@jdahlinger](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jdahlinger)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 8:42pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ign-13209-8-3-identity-provider-doesnt-allow-badge-authentication-without-badge-secret/109588/2 "2025-08-11T20:42:36Z")

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This appears to be a known issue. I’ll update the post title with the ticket number. Thank you for the report.