# \[IGN-13789\] \[null, Bad\_NotConnected("Communication with the data source is defined, but not established, and there is no last known value available."),

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ign-13789-null-bad-notconnected-communication-with-the-data-source-is-defined-but-not-established-and-there-is-no-last-known-value-available/109125>\
**Category:** Ignition 8.3 Early Access\
**Created:** [July 30, 2025, 7:33am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ign-13789-null-bad-notconnected-communication-with-the-data-source-is-defined-but-not-established-and-there-is-no-last-known-value-available/109125 "2025-07-30T07:33:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cody\_Morgan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/db5fbb/32.png) [@Cody\_Morgan](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Cody_Morgan)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 11:40pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ign-13789-null-bad-notconnected-communication-with-the-data-source-is-defined-but-not-established-and-there-is-no-last-known-value-available/109125/13 "2025-11-10T23:40:12Z")

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If you're on v4.0.0 and upgrading to v4.0.4 doesn't work, let us know in a new thread. Apparently, there is a similar issue in Siemens Firmware v4.0.4, but only applies when multiple connections are being made.

I think the original issue in this thread was something different. IIRC, the way that I was able to reproduce the issue described in this thread was to attempt to read from an Instance DataBlock that contained some tags that were inaccessible. I believe it was fixed in v8.3.1, but we didn't get any confirmation from OP.

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