# IGN-4431 - GAN : Remote Alarm Journal or Remote History Provider - no Store and Forward mechanism? **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Tags:** ignition81\ **Created:** [December 20, 2021, 4:05pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ign-4431-gan-remote-alarm-journal-or-remote-history-provider-no-store-and-forward-mechanism/54316 "2021-12-20T16:05:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mazeyrat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/mazeyrat/32/10955_2.png) [@mazeyrat](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/mazeyrat)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 4:05pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ign-4431-gan-remote-alarm-journal-or-remote-history-provider-no-store-and-forward-mechanism/54316/1 "2021-12-20T16:05:30Z")
@paul-griffith, When we use **Remote Alarm Journal** or **Remote History Provider** , could you confirm that the data are lost **if the remote gateway is not reachable** when the data are produced on the source gateway ? Gateway Area Network have no sort of **“Store and Forward”** mechanism ? If it’s the case, as a feature request, It would be usefull to have such of mechanism ! ---
**Author:** ![kcollins](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kcollins/32/19646_2.png) [@kcollins](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/kcollins)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 9:12pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ign-4431-gan-remote-alarm-journal-or-remote-history-provider-no-store-and-forward-mechanism/54316/2 "2021-12-20T21:12:51Z")
@mazeyrat, using Remote History Provider will create a local S&F cache so you should be good there. We do have a feature request in the queue for adding the S&F functionality to Remote Alarm Journal and Remote Audit Profile–these do not currently utilize S&F queues _in Ignition Standard/Full edition_. Note that [Ignition Edge Sync Services](https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC81/Edge+Sync+Services) do have S&F across all three–it just isn’t available yet in _Standard_ edition. ---
**Author:** ![pascal.fragnoud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pascal.fragnoud/32/24728_2.png) [@pascal.fragnoud](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pascal.fragnoud)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 8:54am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ign-4431-gan-remote-alarm-journal-or-remote-history-provider-no-store-and-forward-mechanism/54316/3 "2022-10-26T08:54:24Z")
Ten months later, how far in the pipeline is that feature ? While waiting for it to be ready, how can we work this out ? What are the options ? Could I, instead of a remote alarm journal, create a database journal and make it point to the same db as the original journal ? Would that work ? Some context: several field/spoke gateways in several locations, and one front/hub gateway. Databases and journals are configured on front, with field gateways acting as remote tag providers. How can I make sure I'm not losing alarm events ? ---
**Author:** ![kcollins](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kcollins/32/19646_2.png) [@kcollins](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/kcollins)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 1:46pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ign-4431-gan-remote-alarm-journal-or-remote-history-provider-no-store-and-forward-mechanism/54316/4 "2022-10-26T13:46:33Z")
> [@pascal.fragnoud](#): > > Ten months later, how far in the pipeline is that feature ? This feature is in active development right now! ---
**Author:** ![pascal.fragnoud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pascal.fragnoud/32/24728_2.png) [@pascal.fragnoud](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pascal.fragnoud)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 9:18am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ign-4431-gan-remote-alarm-journal-or-remote-history-provider-no-store-and-forward-mechanism/54316/5 "2022-11-02T09:18:58Z")
Cool, do you have an ETA ? Also, can I have your opinion on the rest of the post, particularly this part ? > [@pascal.fragnoud](#): > > Could I, instead of a remote alarm journal, create a database journal and make it point to the same db as the original journal ? Would that work ? ---
**Author:** ![kcollins](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kcollins/32/19646_2.png) [@kcollins](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/kcollins)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2022, 9:42pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ign-4431-gan-remote-alarm-journal-or-remote-history-provider-no-store-and-forward-mechanism/54316/6 "2022-12-16T21:42:35Z")
Sorry to have missed the follow-up on this one, my apologies. Looks like this feature did make it into 8.1.23: > Added store and forward functionality for remote alarm journals and audit profiles.