# \[IGN-7670\] Getting "Bad\_Stale" quality when reading an invalid component property

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ign-7670-getting-bad-stale-quality-when-reading-an-invalid-component-property/73358>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Tags:** perspective\
**Created:** [May 6, 2023, 9:44am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ign-7670-getting-bad-stale-quality-when-reading-an-invalid-component-property/73358 "2023-05-06T09:44:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![nminchin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/nminchin/32/6911_2.png) [@nminchin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nminchin)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2023, 9:44am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ign-7670-getting-bad-stale-quality-when-reading-an-invalid-component-property/73358/1 "2023-05-06T09:44:03Z")

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v8.1.27

Shouldn't this return Bad\_NotFound?

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`{./CoordinateContainer/Label_0.HELLO}` returns `Bad_NotFound`  
`{./CoordinateContainer/Label_0.props.HELLO}` returns `Bad_Stale` 😕 which means I can't use it with the expression function `isAvailable` ☹ (or have to be careful with it at least)

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**Author:** ![andrew.budaiev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/andrew.budaiev/32/72921_2.png) [@andrew.budaiev](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/andrew.budaiev)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 4:04am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ign-7670-getting-bad-stale-quality-when-reading-an-invalid-component-property/73358/2 "2023-05-08T04:04:49Z")

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It seems to be` Bad_NotFound` with a Property Binding, but `Bad_Stale` with a Expression. 🤨  
Property binding with Expression transform would be a nice workaround until it's fixed.