# Ignition 7.8.1: \[System\]Gateway/Alarming tag folder gone

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-7-8-1-system-gateway-alarming-tag-folder-gone/11126>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [January 27, 2016, 9:06am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-7-8-1-system-gateway-alarming-tag-folder-gone/11126 "2016-01-27T09:06:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![pgmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d07c76/32.png) [@pgmo](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pgmo)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 9:06am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-7-8-1-system-gateway-alarming-tag-folder-gone/11126/1 "2016-01-27T09:06:40Z")

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Hi,  
I’ve just installed the last Ignition version 7.8.1: where has the tag folder [System]Gateway/Alarming bin move? Or was it suppressed? My project heavily relies on those tags. I need an answer asap!

Thanks, regards

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**Author:** ![pgmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d07c76/32.png) [@pgmo](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pgmo)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 2:04pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-7-8-1-system-gateway-alarming-tag-folder-gone/11126/2 "2016-01-27T14:04:02Z")

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Just solved: Ignition completely uninstalled and installed again, now it works!  
For Inductive Automation people might be this of interest: my first attempt was to install Ignition 7.8.1 on 7.8.0 without uninstall the preceding version. That had two bad consequences:

1. no [System]Gateway/Alarming tag folder anymore and
2. no possibility to write to the PLC through Kewpare (all tags were read-only).  
So in my case uninstall of 7.8.0 was necessary prior to install the new version 7.8.1.

Thanks

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**Author:** ![zxcslo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/zxcslo/32/61610_2.png) [@zxcslo](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/zxcslo)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2017, 7:06pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-7-8-1-system-gateway-alarming-tag-folder-gone/11126/3 "2017-11-03T19:06:09Z")

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Same thing happened to me today:  
I have upgraded Ignition Gateway from 7.8.5 to 7.9.4.  
And now tag folder [System]Gateway/Alarming is gone… 😱

I can’t uninstall and reinstall because this is a production Ignition server…

What can be done?

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**Author:** ![zxcslo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/zxcslo/32/61610_2.png) [@zxcslo](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/zxcslo)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2017, 7:26pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-7-8-1-system-gateway-alarming-tag-folder-gone/11126/4 "2017-11-03T19:26:49Z")

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I’ve just restarted the Ignition Gateway and now tag folder [System]Gateway/Alarming is back!  
Very strange… 😒