# Ignition 8.3 Needs restart after modules installs **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition 8.3 Early Access\ **Created:** [September 17, 2025, 8:57am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-3-needs-restart-after-modules-installs/110695 "2025-09-17T08:57:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jorge.galvez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@jorge.galvez](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jorge.galvez)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 8:57am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-3-needs-restart-after-modules-installs/110695/1 "2025-09-17T08:57:51Z")
Hi, Have you seen that a restart is needed when a new module is installed? I think this is a step back. What do you think? ---
**Author:** ![andrew.budaiev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/andrew.budaiev/32/72921_2.png) [@andrew.budaiev](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/andrew.budaiev)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 9:39am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-3-needs-restart-after-modules-installs/110695/2 "2025-09-17T09:39:56Z")
Yes, hot loading was removed intentionally. ---
**Author:** ![KathyApplebaum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kathyapplebaum/32/7261_2.png) [@KathyApplebaum](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/KathyApplebaum)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 2:14pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-3-needs-restart-after-modules-installs/110695/3 "2025-09-17T14:14:15Z")
It was a difficult decision to make when we decided to remove hot loading for 8.3.0, but ultimately we decided that we needed to do that. Hot loading causes all kinds of issues for the Java class loaders, and lead to the kinds of problems where you would need to restart running modules to clear up issues. By having the list of modules known at start up we avoid a lot of potential race conditions and instabilities. ---
**Author:** ![ironyeti1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/ironyeti1/32/36635_2.png) [@ironyeti1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/ironyeti1)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 4:00pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-3-needs-restart-after-modules-installs/110695/4 "2025-09-21T16:00:45Z")
We use the Sepasoft suite, which is 5 modules for us. Will I need to restart after _each_ module update, or just once after updating all? Obviously hoping for the latter. ---
**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 4:09pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-3-needs-restart-after-modules-installs/110695/5 "2025-09-21T16:09:20Z")
The latter. Update all then restart. ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e79b87/32.png) [@diamond](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 5:45pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-3-needs-restart-after-modules-installs/110695/6 "2025-09-21T17:45:13Z")
Adding or removing modules is not something that is done on a daily basis, so it is not a problem for me ---
**Author:** ![cmallonee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/cmallonee/32/6416_2.png) [@cmallonee](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/cmallonee)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 12:26am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-3-needs-restart-after-modules-installs/110695/7 "2025-09-22T00:26:40Z")
> [@ironyeti1](#): > > Will I need to restart after _each_ module update, or just once after updating all? As @pturmel said, you can add, update, enable, disable, or uninstall as many as you’d like in one go, then restart when you’re ready. The gateway will display a banner which notifies you that some number of module changes are waiting on a Gateway restart, and you’ll be able to perform that restart directly from the banner. In the following screenshot, I’ve disabled two modules. After a short period, a banner was displayed which informed me that two modules were waiting on a gateway restart. I was also able to hover over a part of the banner to see which modules were due to be affected. ![Screenshot 2025-09-21 at 5.24.58 PM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/1/c/1cf3596bbe1272b1f9be15d0048859a753ca2150.png)