# Ignition 8 help

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-help/29240>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Created:** [October 21, 2019, 1:13pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-help/29240 "2019-10-21T13:13:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![dylanscully01123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@dylanscully01123](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dylanscully01123)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 1:13pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-help/29240/1 "2019-10-21T13:13:45Z")

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Hi, I am new to ignition and I’m getting stuck on some small things. I’m hoping to find someone who is willing to help me through minor hang ups I’m having on a more one-to-one basis. The questions I have are simple and should be easy to work through. I am using ignition 8.

Thank you

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**Author:** ![dkhayes117](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/dkhayes117/32/68344_2.png) [@dkhayes117](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dkhayes117)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 1:24pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-help/29240/2 "2019-10-21T13:24:56Z")

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Ask away, no shame in asking simple questions. Also check out [www.inductiveuniversity.com](http://www.inductiveuniversity.com) for free training. Also, if you haven’t, search the forum for similar questions before posting.

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**Author:** ![dylanscully01123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@dylanscully01123](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dylanscully01123)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 1:49pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-help/29240/3 "2019-10-21T13:49:34Z")

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When making an instance of my UDT I am able to set the instance’s name and the individual tag paths, but the tag names themselves arent editable. Im in read/write mode.

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**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 1:52pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-help/29240/4 "2019-10-21T13:52:40Z")

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You can’t add or remove tags, or otherwise change structure in a UDT instance - the point of a UDT is to have a known organized set of tags and names. You can only override certain properties - signified by the green circle, such as what you have on the OPC Item Path property.

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**Author:** ![witman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d2c977/32.png) [@witman](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/witman)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 2:59pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-help/29240/5 "2019-10-21T14:59:28Z")

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> [@dylanscully01123](#):
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> I am able to set the instance’s name [...], but the tag names themselves arent editable.

As @paul-griffith notes, this is by design. If you want to change the tag names inside a UDT, you change those _on the UDT definition_ and it changes them on all UDT instances.

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**Author:** ![Rendi.Yohanes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Rendi.Yohanes](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Rendi.Yohanes)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 4:06pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-help/29240/6 "2019-10-21T16:06:31Z")

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Maybe you can share a bit more what you are trying to accomplish?

The point of UDT is to have kind of a template for a tag.  
For example, you can have a Motor UDT.  
The instance name can be the motor tag name, and internally it can have multiple signals: running, trip, etc., which is common for all motors.
