# Ignition 8 Tags going stale on remote designer & client

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-tags-going-stale-on-remote-designer-client/24071>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Created:** [April 12, 2019, 12:57am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-tags-going-stale-on-remote-designer-client/24071 "2019-04-12T00:57:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![joshdunstan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/joshdunstan/32/43306_2.png) [@joshdunstan](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/joshdunstan)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 12:57am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-tags-going-stale-on-remote-designer-client/24071/1 "2019-04-12T00:57:41Z")

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Hey guys,

I was having an issue where my tags were going stale if I tried to view them in a remote instance of a designer or client… but this wasn’t the case for working on the local machine. This was on a gateway upgraded to the consumer release Ignition 8 after using many different nightly builds, that were an original upgrade from 7.9.

I carried out the following steps and it has fixed it. Steps 6 and 7 might be unneeded but I did it anyway.

1. Backup gateway
2. Uninstall Ignition 8
3. Reboot
4. Install Ignition 8
5. Restore gateway
6. Uninstall designer launcher on remote machine
7. Reinstall designer launcher on remote machine
8. Launch designer
9. Open project

Hope this helps someone else too.