# Ignition 8 User Manual **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition Early Access\ **Created:** [October 11, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-user-manual/20098 "2018-10-11T17:56:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Robert.McKenzie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/robert.mckenzie/32/4134_2.png) [@Robert.McKenzie](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Robert.McKenzie)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-user-manual/20098/1 "2018-10-11T17:56:01Z")
**[Ignition 8 User Manual](https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC80)** Welcome to the Beta for Ignition 8! With the opening of the beta forum, we have opened up our new User Manual to you. There is a wealth of knowledge already available in the updated version of the User Manual. New systems like the Perspective module already have a lot of information for you to read up on. We have also done a bit of re-arranging to the structure of the docs to make it more clear when a concept belongs to a particular module and to (hopefully!) make everything easier to find. Check out the [User Manual](https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC80) now to learn more about everything in Ignition 8. **We need your help to improve the manual!** Pardon our dust, the manual is still a work-in-progress. Many images are outdated or missing, but this will get better over time. Please let us know if you find anything confusing or inaccurate in the manual. The more feedback we get, the better the documentation will be. ---
**Author:** ![Robert.McKenzie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/robert.mckenzie/32/4134_2.png) [@Robert.McKenzie](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Robert.McKenzie)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-user-manual/20098/2 "2018-10-11T17:56:36Z")
Pinned on October 11, 2018, 5:56pm UTC ---
**Author:** ![mazeyrat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/mazeyrat/32/10955_2.png) [@mazeyrat](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/mazeyrat)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 5:19pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-user-manual/20098/3 "2018-10-12T17:19:20Z")
Hi @Carl.Gould, Would it be possible that your share the ppt sources of the 3 or 4 very easy understandable Ignition backend and frontend stack architecture, with Vision and Perspective that you presented at the ICC18 in **Introducing the Ignition Perspective Module**? It would be a very usefull material for us to explain Ignition to the newbies. ---
**Author:** ![Carl.Gould](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/carl.gould/32/7262_2.png) [@Carl.Gould](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Carl.Gould)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-user-manual/20098/4 "2018-10-15T16:54:12Z")
I think you mean these slides: [Ignition-Perspective-Arch-Slides.pdf](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/2X/d/d1aa19fb7f457b042e673ef99494caf982076960.pdf) (2.6 MB) ---
**Author:** ![mazeyrat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/mazeyrat/32/10955_2.png) [@mazeyrat](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/mazeyrat)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 5:05pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-user-manual/20098/5 "2018-10-15T17:05:27Z")
Thanks a lot @Carl.Gould ! It give us a good perspective of Ignition 8 ---
**Author:** ![brian.mills](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/brian.mills/32/6348_2.png) [@brian.mills](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/brian.mills)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2018, 9:16pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-user-manual/20098/6 "2018-10-16T21:16:54Z")
[FEEDBACK] Spell check for the win to help clean up some of that “dust” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Robert.McKenzie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/robert.mckenzie/32/4134_2.png) [@Robert.McKenzie](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Robert.McKenzie)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-user-manual/20098/7 "2018-10-16T21:41:51Z")
We should have very few spelling errors at this point, if you see any Brian, please let us know! ---
**Author:** ![ryanjmclaughlin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/ryanjmclaughlin/32/4318_2.png) [@ryanjmclaughlin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/ryanjmclaughlin)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 1:31pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-user-manual/20098/8 "2018-10-17T13:31:21Z")
@Robert.McKenzie Do you want us to start new threads for User Manual feedback or keep it in this thread? On [https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC80/Python+Scripting](https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC80/Python+Scripting) It still references Jython 2.5, I thought 8 pushed to 2.7? ---
**Author:** ![Paolo.Mariani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paolo.mariani/32/3285_2.png) [@Paolo.Mariani](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Paolo.Mariani)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 9:16pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-user-manual/20098/9 "2018-10-18T21:16:18Z")
@ryanjmclaughlin Keeping it in this thread will help us keep all the issues in one place for us. And you are right on the Jython 2.7, I got that fixed in the manual. ---
**Author:** ![brian.mills](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/brian.mills/32/6348_2.png) [@brian.mills](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/brian.mills)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-user-manual/20098/10 "2018-10-18T21:37:27Z")
I couldn’t reply at that time, but I did send the very few I found. Looking great otherwise! ---
**Author:** ![Paolo.Mariani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paolo.mariani/32/3285_2.png) [@Paolo.Mariani](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Paolo.Mariani)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 9:43pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-user-manual/20098/11 "2018-10-18T21:43:41Z")
@brian.mills Yep, we got those taken care of as well! ---
**Author:** ![brian.mills](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/brian.mills/32/6348_2.png) [@brian.mills](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/brian.mills)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-user-manual/20098/13 "2018-12-13T17:50:07Z")
One more that needs a little more clarification… [https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC80/Using+Component+Message+Handlers](https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC80/Using+Component+Message+Handlers) A strong suggestion for when a script is trying to ??? with another component? ---
**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 6:01pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-user-manual/20098/14 "2018-12-13T18:01:32Z")
I would read it as “trying to _ **interact** _ with” ---
**Author:** ![brian.mills](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/brian.mills/32/6348_2.png) [@brian.mills](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/brian.mills)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 6:09pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-user-manual/20098/15 "2018-12-13T18:09:24Z")
… that’s what I would _think_ it would be also… ---
**Author:** ![Robert.McKenzie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/robert.mckenzie/32/4134_2.png) [@Robert.McKenzie](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Robert.McKenzie)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 6:09pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-user-manual/20098/16 "2018-12-13T18:09:38Z")
Oops! Nice catch Brian. it now reads: “We strongly suggest you utilize message handlers when a script is trying to interact with a component in another view.” ---
**Author:** ![nminchin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/nminchin/32/6911_2.png) [@nminchin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nminchin)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 2:39am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-user-manual/20098/18 "2021-08-25T02:39:33Z")
Better late than never! ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/6/0/60eb33ace52fc9c222679783a3236365655d7eb6.png) [https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC81/system.tag.storeTagHistory](https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC81/system.tag.storeTagHistory) The “Tag Quality and Overlays” link goes to the 7.9 docs ---
**Author:** ![Paul.Scott](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul.scott/32/4578_2.png) [@Paul.Scott](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Paul.Scott)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-user-manual/20098/19 "2021-08-26T21:07:54Z")
> [@nminchin](#): > > The “Tag Quality and Overlays” link goes to the 7.9 docs Say whaaaa? No it doesn't. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![nminchin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/nminchin/32/6911_2.png) [@nminchin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nminchin)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 10:15pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-user-manual/20098/20 "2021-09-28T22:15:37Z")
I gotcha again: [https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC81/qualityOf](https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC81/qualityOf) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/a/d/ad70b275fba42a03d0547341a3e43efb63ebad01.png) This links to: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/6/b/6bacaae237a4110ac10771c219e1ced395dbe80b.png) 😉 Also, not entirely sure about the intent of this example… ```auto //Use "=" to compare quality codes against constant names or integer codes "== " + (qualityOf({[default]Sensor 1/Reading}) = {../Label.props.text}) //Returns "== true" if the quality code matches a property ``` Not sure what the point of the == is at the start of the return string? ---
**Author:** ![Paul.Scott](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul.scott/32/4578_2.png) [@Paul.Scott](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Paul.Scott)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 10:25pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-user-manual/20098/21 "2021-09-28T22:25:08Z")
Man, it’s weird. I wonder what manual you’re looking at. Everything looks fine on my end. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![nminchin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/nminchin/32/6911_2.png) [@nminchin](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/nminchin)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 10:29pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/ignition-8-user-manual/20098/22 "2021-09-28T22:29:51Z")
😆 Haha, reminds me of an old movie with fuel-powered lights that keep turning on to the wife’s dismay, only this time the wife actually knows what’s going on 😉 Also, this just popped up 😂 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/c/a/caac866961ff54828e2adc708bbc0700a67289cd.png)